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post 1682058773 05-04-2023, 05:43 PM
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South depended heavily on slaves for their economy. They saw it as unjust that the North could cripple their economy and reduce their social standing because they had a problem with slavery.

Source: I'm a history professor
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout
State's rights.
to enslave ppl...
post 1682058823 05-04-2023, 05:44 PM
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Equal rights for the states. The North was imposing new laws on the South. They didn't like it.
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post 1682058873 05-04-2023, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy
Equal rights for the states. The North was imposing new laws on the South. They didn't like it.
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html

Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.

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Originally Posted By Banderistan
to enslave ppl...
Slavery should have ended with the Bill of Rights.
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post 1682058973 05-04-2023, 05:46 PM
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in politics, states rights vs federal rights is a bs application of dialogue that can be applied to any side of any issue.

People often change their perspective on states rights based on the specific issue.

anyone that says states rights in an npc
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout
Slavery should have ended with the Bill of Rights.
Correct.

Actually if Garfield had survived, civil rights would have been way different. He would have desegregated waaaay earlier and granted full equality.
post 1682059133 05-04-2023, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Bro...that's not even remotely true. The North was FAR more industrialized (which played a massive part in them winning the war) and had a stronger economy, continuing to have a slave based agrarian economy actually significantly held the south back.
It didn't hold them back. It was just different. Agriculture was also huge. They had cornered the trade with England as well. The North barely traded anything.
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post 1682059163 05-04-2023, 05:49 PM
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jews mad that the north wanted to free their slaves

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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
The Civil War was about "freeing slaves" as much as Iraq and Afghanistan was about "bringing democracy"......
lol

I knew something was fishy because people arn't that passionate about anything in modern times.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
lmaoooo

The weather is nice, the earth green and the people around me are of a similar mindset.

I don't care, even a little bit, about the lives of people that used to live here, let alone people that used to live elsewhere.

Those people are dead and I have no relationship with them.

I do enjoy finding artifacts on my property, tho. Sometimes I will think about the people that made and used them, as well as the animals that were killed with them, since oftentimes they will display some damage from hitting a bone.

But as far as what any governing body was doing back then, or who they were doing it to...

...well, that's life.

Humans gonna human. Amirite?
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Originally Posted By Dogkrack
jews mad that the north wanted to free their slaves

lmao the civil war was about jews too huh dogcrap?
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Originally Posted By 401Delta
The weather is nice, the earth green and the people around me are of a similar mindset.

I don't care, even a little bit, about the lives of people that used to live here, let alone people that used to live elsewhere.

Those people are dead and I have no relationship with them.

I do enjoy finding artifacts on my property, tho. Sometimes I will think about the people that made and used them, as well as the animals that were killed with them, since oftentimes they will display some damage from hitting a bone.

But as far as what any governing body was doing back then, or who they were doing it to...

...well, that's life.

Humans gonna human. Amirite?
lmao u are progressing through the grief process well...take some time brah

I felt the same way when I realized America is a degenerate empire plundering the resources of the world and oppressing billions of people and that the commies were the good guys.

It's exactly like those dudes who say "FREE TIBET" without realizing Tibet had a fukton of slaves, and Mao freed them. LMAO
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The North doing what they do best:

not minding their own business
FL > PA
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Originally Posted By BalognaNbeans
It was the beginning of the end
The failure of the reconstruction.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
lmao u are progressing through the grief process well...take some time brah
Thanks, bro.

I'm going to go walk the nature trail on my property with my dogs and contemplate what I've done.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
lmao the civil war was about jews too huh dogcrap?
most things that result in massive amounts of deaths of europeans are the result of jews.
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Originally Posted By Roldz
The North doing what they do best:

not minding their own business
this guy still in denial phase lul
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The south wanted to secede and govern themselves, but Abraham Lincoln and the north would rather go to war than let them leave
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html

Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.

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I don't understand your play here. You are deliberately misrepresenting history, and for what purpose? What "W" do you think this gives you, and what "L" do you think this gives Nahtzees?

The question isn't whether slavery is right or wrong. It is about the real reason behind the civil war. It is categorically false that the civil war was about freeing slaves. Yes, slavery was at issue here, but it was about economics and governance, and how slavery relates to the foregoing.

I know that part of the issue is that you are very low IQ and can't even understand the question. And you are also too low IQ to talk objectively about anything that remotely triggers an emotional response. But I am failing to see what you are valiantly fighting for here?

No one is saying the North were the bad guys. They are just saying the North's motivations weren't purely virtuous. And if anything, Republicans were in power in the north, so not even sure how you think this helps any "cause".

No one is saying the South were the good guys. No one is saying the South's motivations were virtuous, or that slavery wasn't an issue.

I just really fail to grasp what your fight is here, and why you insist on engaging in sophistry over essentially nothing.

Although admittedly part of the problem is my own low IQ (although not as chit tier as your's). You are probably just to mentally disturbed and irrational to have any real motivation or rationale behind your actions, and I'm too low IQ to realize that and just ignore I guess.

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Originally Posted By Banderistan
lmao u are progressing through the grief process well...take some time brah

I felt the same way when I realized America is a degenerate empire plundering the resources of the world and oppressing billions of people and that thecommies were the good guys.

It's exactly like those dudes who say "FREE TIBET" without realizing Tibet had a fukton of slaves, and Mao freed them. LMAO
Also, more evidence of your low IQ. Inability to separate doctrine from the ppl. Maybe communism is the "right" doctrine, but show me one regime where the commies were the good guys? Adopting the right doctrine and then killing millions of innocent ppl in the name of that doctrine does not make you the good guy, ****
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
to enslave ppl...
You are a slave in your dads basement you fuking loser. You have no life and should just do the rest of the working world a favor and rope. Wincel the typical Oregon male these days.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior
I don't understand your play here. You are deliberately misrepresenting history, and for what purpose? What "W" do you think this gives you, and what "L" do you think this gives Nahtzees?

The question isn't whether slavery is right or wrong. It is about the real reason behind the civil war. It is categorically false that the civil war was about freeing slaves. Yes, slavery was at issue here, but it was about economics and governance, and how slavery relates to the foregoing.

I know that part of the issue is that you are very low IQ and can't even understand the question. And you are also too low IQ to talk objectively about anything that remotely triggers an emotional response. But I am failing to see what you are valiantly fighting for here?

No one is saying the North were the bad guys. They are just saying the North's motivations weren't purely virtuous. And if anything, Republicans were in power in the north, so not even sure how you think this helps any "cause".

No one is saying the South were the good guys. No one is saying the South's motivations were virtuous, or that slavery wasn't an issue.

I just really fail to grasp what your fight is here, and why you insist on engaging in sophistry over essentially nothing.

Although admittedly part of the problem is my own low IQ (although not as chit tier as your's). You are probably just to mentally disturbed and irrational to have any real motivation or rationale behind your actions, and I'm too low IQ to realize that and just ignore I guess.

Sent from my iphone.



Also, more evidence of your low IQ. Inability to separate doctrine from the ppl. Maybe communism is the "right" doctrine, but show me one regime where the commies were the good guys? Adopting the right doctrine and then killing millions of innocent ppl in the name of that doctrine does not make you the good guy, goy.
This wincel chump will never punch a nazi or right winger, he is an absolute puss that hides in his dads basement.
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
The south wanted to secede and govern themselves, but Abraham Lincoln and the north would rather go to war than let them leave
Most plausible answer so far
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The news won’t even tell you the truth about what happened this morning. Don’t anyone kid yourself into thinking that we’re being told the truth about the civil war. Chances are the only people who actually know are the Illuminati puppet masters.
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the war of northern aggression
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Originally Posted By RopeACope
Why the hell would these two fight lol
Mostly about tariffs. The “history” has been skewed and rewritten as usual though.
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Originally Posted By desslok
Mostly about tariffs. The “history” has been skewed and rewritten as usual though.
Bro nobody is going to war over tariffs lol
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I am no expert, but slavery was involved.

In the north they had sweatshop slavery, in the south there were slaves.

There were a lot of political issues involving trade and tarifs that the north pushed through to the detriment of the south. This was due to the south producing raw materials other countries were also interested in. The north used population to get the votes (3/5ths compromise came from this) and gained a monopoly on southern enterprise.

This is just an example of one of the ongoing conflicts leading to it.

Jefferson Davis was also concerned with the end of slavery being forced on the south and the inability of it as an industry to spread to new land.

The it not being a states rights issue people are being too simplistic. It was a different time with different loyalties. Robert E Lee is a perfect example of someone who fought for his state out of principal.

History is more nuanced than this.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior
I don't understand your play here. You are deliberately misrepresenting history, and for what purpose? What "W" do you think this gives you, and what "L" do you think this gives Nahtzees?

The question isn't whether slavery is right or wrong. It is about the real reason behind the civil war. It is categorically false that the civil war was about freeing slaves. Yes, slavery was at issue here, but it was about economics and governance, and how slavery relates to the foregoing.

I know that part of the issue is that you are very low IQ and can't even understand the question. And you are also too low IQ to talk objectively about anything that remotely triggers an emotional response. But I am failing to see what you are valiantly fighting for here?

No one is saying the North were the bad guys. They are just saying the North's motivations weren't purely virtuous. And if anything, Republicans were in power in the north, so not even sure how you think this helps any "cause".

No one is saying the South were the good guys. No one is saying the South's motivations were virtuous, or that slavery wasn't an issue.

I just really fail to grasp what your fight is here, and why you insist on engaging in sophistry over essentially nothing.

Although admittedly part of the problem is my own low IQ (although not as chit tier as your's). You are probably just to mentally disturbed and irrational to have any real motivation or rationale behind your actions, and I'm too low IQ to realize that and just ignore I guess.

Sent from my iphone.



Also, more evidence of your low IQ. Inability to separate doctrine from the ppl. Maybe communism is the "right" doctrine, but show me one regime where the commies were the good guys? Adopting the right doctrine and then killing millions of innocent ppl in the name of that doctrine does not make you the good guy, goy.
Did you even read the link? Even the dudes declaring their secession said it was about slavery lmao.


https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Did you even read the link? Even the dudes declaring their secession said it was about slavery lmao.


https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html
What don’t you understand about my comment? Why are you engaging in sophistry about the cause of the civil war when there isn’t even a reason to do so?

I understand why you engage in sophistry when talking about COViD vaccines - at least there is a “cause” there.

But what is the “cause” here? You are just lying without purpose.
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