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post 1683233373 05-23-2023, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I don’t believe that 50% divorce rate. It’s the same people getting remarried/divorce. How many people you know that are on their second, third, or even fourth marriage.

Been married 18 yrs (married young), we both stay pretty fit, travel a lot, make a good living (both own our own business), & am damn thankful I found a conservative minded, good cook, loving & respectful woman..especially when I look at the girls today and how 99% are attention narcissists. (Like the poster above me)
It's more like 40% now. But the measure of those statistics is all over the board.

As an example, a 2020 report touts 41%. But another report shows from 2000 to 2021 that there were 1,985,000 marriages and 689,000 divorces which is under 35%. The rates of divorce stacked against the married population make it even more confusing with only something like 10-15 divorces per 1,000 married individuals.

Divorce is significantly less common among educated and financially stable couples as well. Like other detriments to socioeconomics, it is a larger problem for poor and uneducated couples.


This is all in conjunction with a large dip in marriage rates.
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Being a father and husband is quite easily the hardest thing a man can be. It is also the most rewarding. Especially nowadays when it takes two incomes to run a household, its very difficult at times scheduling everything to keep everyone happy. But nothing is more rewarding seeing your little ones learn, discover new things and become your best friend.
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking
Wait, you're divorced?
Why are you such an insulting dickhead towards me all the time? Seriously, what have I done that offended you so badly that you feel the need to constantly attack me on a personal level? I never go after you, yet you're always busting my balls in the meanest ways you can think of.
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Originally Posted By Jimbo0731
Being a father and husband is quite easily the hardest thing a man can be. It is also the most rewarding. Especially nowadays when it takes two incomes to run a household, its very difficult at times scheduling everything to keep everyone happy. But nothing is more rewarding seeing your little ones learn, discover new things and become your best friend.
This. Some real sociopaths ITT that can't see how rewarding this could be. Posts like the OP are the male version of sloots who give up on motherhood for a life of hedonism. Selfish mindset. It's not all about you bro.
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I had a conversation with my dad a few months ago he said to me "you're never going to settle down are you?" I said probably not, why would I? I love my life right now, I have no real responsibilities I can do what I want when I want and I'm not answerable to anyone. It's pretty sweet.

His reply was "well yeah I could have done that my life would have been so much easier but if I did that you wouldn't be here" then he quickly said "i'm just joking, as long as you're happy I'm glad" it was in this moment when although he didn't say it I could tell he wishes he didn't settle down (note my parents are still together and have been for 40+years) and I kinda wanted to say well yeah you prove my point.
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Originally Posted By low_clazz
Married for 11 years (together for 17 years) and have a 7 year old boy...it's the best.

I love nothing more than being a father, most importantly. It makes work so much better because it changes your perspective about work. Work becomes a means to give him everything he needs and wants (within reason of course)and you no longer want to kill yourself because you're slaving away for clients.
Good you're being honest, children gives meaning true but in the end you're putting a new human in this world that will suffer like you did and maybe your child will also put another human on this rock, perpetuating the neverending cycle. All for selfish reasons, because you wanted meaning in your life, disregarding your child will also suffer hard and will have to face the same question; get a kid or deal with meaning in another way and save another human/his potential child from suffering.
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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca
I had a conversation with my dad a few months ago he said to me "you're never going to settle down are you?" I said probably not, why would I? I love my life right now, I have no real responsibilities I can do what I want when I want and I'm not answerable to anyone. It's pretty sweet.

His reply was "well yeah I could have done that my life would have been so much easier but if I did that you wouldn't be here" then he quickly said "i'm just joking, as long as you're happy I'm glad" it was in this moment when although he didn't say it I could tell he wishes he didn't settle down (note my parents are still together and have been for 40+years) and I kinda wanted to say well yeah you prove my point.
Your dad is pretty much every marriedcel in this thread. They realize they threw away prime years of their life on changing diapers and losing sleep over their kids, and the only way they can cope is brainwashing themselves into believing it was all worth it just to see their kids grow up into becoming such good kids who waste hours of their lives scrolling through TikTok and playing video games.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Good you're being honest, children gives meaning true but in the end you're putting a new human in this world that will suffer like you did and maybe your child will also put another human on this rock, perpetuating the neverending cycle. All for selfish reasons, because you wanted meaning in your life, disregarding your child will also suffer hard and will have to face the same question; get a kid or deal with meaning in another way and save another human/his potential child from suffering.
So because a potential child will not have a life completely free of suffering, you should not have them?
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Originally Posted By UncleFeel
he wrote a jingle anthem for an advert and basically made money from that, he wasn’t a celebrity or nothing. But yeah my point is just because you don’t have kids you have to be some video game nerd, you can still moneymax and live a good life.
He is indeed famous in the show
'Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper (seasons 1–8), a hedonistic bachelor, former rock musician-turned-jingle/children's songwriter'
Charlie Sheen from two and half men is not a good benchmark, but I agree with your point.
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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca
I had a conversation with my dad a few months ago he said to me "you're never going to settle down are you?" I said probably not, why would I? I love my life right now, I have no real responsibilities I can do what I want when I want and I'm not answerable to anyone. It's pretty sweet.

His reply was "well yeah I could have done that my life would have been so much easier but if I did that you wouldn't be here" then he quickly said "i'm just joking, as long as you're happy I'm glad" it was in this moment when although he didn't say it I could tell he wishes he didn't settle down (note my parents are still together and have been for 40+years) and I kinda wanted to say well yeah you prove my point.
You really think if he had a choice, he would have chosen not to have you?

If you ever become a dad, I promise you'll revisit that conversation with a different outlook.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
You really think if he had a choice, he would have chosen not to have you?

If you ever become a dad, I promise you'll revisit that conversation with a different outlook.
I dunno. What I do know is he has sacrificed a lot for his family and I am forever grateful to him.

I am a bit of a spoilt brat tbh and my life would absolutely not be possible without him. I cannot see myself doing the same, he worked incredibly hard to provide for our family meanwhile I'm a lazy pos.

But I will always maintain maybe it's true and something does change and your whole perspective may change when you see a little baby that you made, I just don't care to find out.
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I'm sure some parents love being a parents and devoting their life to their child. I just lol when certain people will say "my kids are my world," or "I love having my son/daughter," while not being married to the mother, seeing their kid and the baby mamma once a week, and have like 95% of their time to themselves and not their kid.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
It's more like 40% now. But the measure of those statistics is all over the board.

As an example, a 2020 report touts 41%. But another report shows from 2000 to 2021 that there were 1,985,000 marriages and 689,000 divorces which is under 35%. The rates of divorce stacked against the married population make it even more confusing with only something like 10-15 divorces per 1,000 married individuals.

Divorce is significantly less common among educated and financially stable couples as well. Like other detriments to socioeconomics, it is a larger problem for poor and uneducated couples.


This is all in conjunction with a large dip in marriage rates.
The rate of divorce for first marriages is even lower (like 1/3 or lower). The overall rate is pushed up by the people who get married and divorced 5 times.
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How Many Marriages End in Divorce?
So, what about the famous statistic that half of all marriages end in divorce? That’s true, but only when it comes to first marriages, half of which are dissolved. Second and third marriages actually fail at a far higher rate.[2]

When Do Couples Divorce?
When marriages end, usually some time has passed since the wedding. In fact, the average length of a marriage prior to divorce is eight years.[3]

Couples Who Live Together Before Marriage Are More Likely to Divorce
Living together prior to marriage is one predictor of the likelihood of divorce. A total of 57% of couples who did not cohabitate prior to marriage had a union that lasted 20 or more years, compared with just 46% who did live together before tying the knot.[10]

Many factors could explain this, including the fact that couples with stronger religious beliefs may be both less likely to live together before marriage and less likely to divorce.

Having Friends Who Are Divorced Increases Your Risk of Divorce
The marital stability within a couple's social network also play a role in whether their union lasts. Couples who have friends who divorce have a 75% increase in the risk of their own marriage ending. Even couples with two degrees of separation from divorce still have a 33% greater risk.[11]

Because of this link, some sociologists believe divorce is a social contagion.

60% of Divorced Couples Cited Infidelity as a Reason for Their Divorce


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Originally Posted By Pats2022SBwin
I'm sure some parents love being a parents and devoting their life to their child. I just lol when certain people will say "my kids are my world," or "I love having my son/daughter," while not being married to the mother, seeing their kid and the baby mamma once a week, and have like 95% of their time to themselves and not their kid.
This. I see my cousins with kids and it's absolutely not what I want. One cousin (male) has a daughter seperated from the mother has her 2 nights a week. Another cousin has 3 kids in a proper idyllic family set up. Neither scenario appeals.
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don't have kids yet. And yes it can be tough sometimes, but it is well worth it with the right person. With the right person, you never feel it hinderance on your life. If you don't feel that she brings joy or adds to you life in any tangible or intangible way, then you chose the wrong wife brah. Sorry to say. It's worse choosing the wrong wife than being alone.

with the right wife, all you need to do is lay pipe good, shower her with attention from time to time (because ALL women LOVE attention without exception) and maybe buy something nice to let her know you think about her. She'll leave you the fk alone 90% of the time. If she starts nagging you, rinse and repeat the above. Don't even need to do step 2 and step 3 sometimes. Or maybe she's just on her period.
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Yeah, I love being a dad. I'm fortunate enough to be in the position where my wife and I could rearrange our lives to suit being parents and it works really well.
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Most of the time. I have 3 kids (last was a definite oops) and I can definitely see why most people have just 1-2. Having two kids isn't twice as hard as having one, but having 3 is definitely more than twice as difficult as having just 2. It's definitely hard when they have no independence, but then they also do things that make you unable to understand how you lived your life without them.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
It is just raw sacrifice man.


Throw your own identity out of the window.

In order to be good at either of those, you have to completely get over and disregard yourself.

All of your wishes and desires, your own individual identity. It is that serious. Literally who you are a person has to change to be dedicated to this one thing.


They are the most important things in the world and every single second needs to be dedicated to giving them the highest standard of living possible.

There is no boys night out in that equation. Your old drinking friends are gone. That isn’t even a question. Accept that.

Every penny you spend is a penny taken away from your kids, every night you don’t interact with them, bond with them, provide them development and foster your relationships is a detriment to all of your livelihood.

It is a sacrifice and if you don’t understand that, in its entirety, don’t do it.

It provides much more of a sense of purpose though there is not a need for anything else.

Everything else is so superficial and bullchit.

What else is there to do? Make another dollar? Drink another beer? Bang another slut? None of it matters.


At least that is what I envision a good dad being like. I wouldn’t know. I was not taught correctly.
Making excess money, banging sluts and drinking beer may not matter but what makes you so sure having kids matter?

Banging, drinking and money may not matter but at least it's enjoyable, raising kids is not enjoyable though raised kids might be.

People saying that they love raising kids are like the people who claim to love their job, they are like lifers who claim to be religious, these people are lying to themselves so they can cope.
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i love being a single uncle and i'm positive that at least a couple of my nieces and nephews like me better than their dad

imagine working all day and not sleeping at night and the kids would rather hang with the douchebag wannabe playboy uncle


fuking brutal
Best post itt, I'm in the same position, younger brother is the daddy but I'm the Funcle.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Making excess money, banging sluts and drinking beer may not matter but what makes you so sure having kids matter?

Banging, drinking and money may not matter but at least it's enjoyable,raising kids is not enjoyable though raised kids might be.

People saying that they love raising kids are like the people who claim to love their job, they are like lifers who claim to be religious, these people are lying to themselves so they can cope.



Best post itt, I'm in the same position, younger brother is the daddy but I'm the Funcle.
It absolutely is



just after age 3 or so
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Originally Posted By Mundungus
I have 3 daughters - my 21 year old just graduated college on Saturday and starts law school in the fall and my 13 year old twins are ending their 7th grade year.

Being a dad is awesome but is a huge responsibility and of course it's frustrating at times. The key to good parenting (typically resulting in many positive, rewarding seasons of life) is spending copious amounts of time with your child, especially in the very young formative years. This is crucial to bonding with your child to establish trust, communication, love and set a good example for them. Most people fail here because they refuse to give up some of their own wants/time. A good example are parents that are too busy on their screen so they put a screen in their kid's face to shut them up. These kids grow up with zero attention span, no discipline and feeling ignored/unimportant by/to their parents.

The other major factor in raising respectful, successful children is having an equal to help you instill and demonstrate these values. If your wife isn't on the same page with boundaries, discipline, life view, etc then you're going to struggle. Good parenting starts with a strong marriage that has good communication and reflects the values you are teaching your kids.

Boundaries with Kids is a great book on how to set healthy boundaries for kids. Parenting with Love & Logic is another good one. And for any dads/soon to be dads in here, Authentic Manhood is an excellent series on how to raise sons that grow up to be men and not the weaklings that today's youth are being groomed to become.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
It is just raw sacrifice man.


Throw your own identity out of the window.

In order to be good at either of those, you have to completely get over and disregard yourself.

At least that is what I envision a good dad being like. I wouldn’t know. I was not taught correctly.
I get where you are coming from, but happy families with happy children are best served by a happy couple. And an extra adult or three is even better...meaning grandparents/aunts and uncles so that the parents do have some time and energy for themselves and each other.
Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
I know a lot of people think that way but I disagree. I've never been a 'kids go absolutely first' kind of person. It's always been me, then my wife, then my kids.


I mean, if you don't focus on yourself, you will not be the person you need to be to actually be a good role model. If you don't next focus on your wife, your marriage will suffer, which makes the children suffer. I just dropped my kids of at the grandparents and played a round of golf with my wife this past weekend. It was a blast and I felt zero guilt.

This has worked well for me so far with two kids and another on the way. I'm not solely defined by fatherhood, so I shouldn't act as if I am.
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Originally Posted By Jms89
You don't understand how great kids are until you have them. I swore i would stay single and live life on easy mode but now that i have a daughter its literally the best thing ever... trumps all sloots, relationships, etc. If you have the urge to have kids, don't wait. It completed my life and gave me purpose to get to the next level. Family life is goat, espeically as you get into your 30s and 40s and find that all your friends have left because they have their own things going on.
Originally Posted By low_clazz
Married for 11 years (together for 17 years) and have a 7 year old boy...it's the best.

I love nothing more than being a father, most importantly. It makes work so much better because it changes your perspective about work. Work becomes a means to give him everything he needs and wants (within reason of course) and you no longer want to kill yourself because you're slaving away for clients.
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Love it, ded fukn srs. Will be married 20 years in July. Kids are 13 year old boy and 8 year old girl. Wife and I went to high school together, I'm the first relationship she ever had.

And the kids are only a pain for the first couple years. Once they learn how to get a bowl of lucky charms, turn on cartoons and leave you the fuk alone, the no sleep thing changes.

I wouldn't change that part of my life for anything.

Edit: I'll give y'all a hint about a successful marriage. You have to actually like her and be friends because the shiny new love wears off.

Edit 2: doesn't hurt to have a wife who learned all of her sex tricks with you, knows exactly what you like, and REALLY loves butt sex
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
It absolutely is



just after age 3 or so
From around age 4 to 13 or so is pretty sweet. Potty trained, can talk to you, and haven't been hit with puberty yet. From my n=1 example 17 got better again.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
So because a potential child will not have a life completely free of suffering, you should not have them?
If you don't want to inflict suffering on another being, yes.

It's a deep philosophical question though, is this life worth the suffering? As a man you have to ask yourself what can you offer you child? Will it have to wageslave like you? Good family? Good health?

I mean look around, imo most people are unfit to have children. Also look at various statistics.

The wrong people are having children
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Originally Posted By ****inator
If you don't want to inflict suffering on another being, yes.

It's a deep philosophical question though, is this life worth the suffering? As a man you have to ask yourself what can you offer you child? Will it have to wageslave like you? Good family? Good health?

I mean look around, imo most people are unfit to have children. Also look at various statistics.

The wrong people are having children
Since when were we not supposed to endure any suffering? It's simply a part of life. The philosophical question of whether living life is worth suffering completely evades the notion that suffering is apartof living.

I do agree that many people who shouldn't be having children are doing it. But I'm not going to not have kids cause they might meet hardship in their lives.
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While they may not always be easy, it has given me some of the greatest moments of my life.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I’ve thought about the same. I would never want my kids to be wage slaves or forced to work some career they don’t like. I would only want kids if I could set them up for life so they never had to work unless they want to.
To each their own, but that sounds like a surefire way to make some spoiled kids. No sense of personal accomplishment, no need to persevere.
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Yeah i love it.

A million times better than fuking club sloots, doing juice & partying like i was doing before wife.
If anything it made me more career focused. Try wifing up a non feminist whore that is a teen & wants kids straight away instead of some career woman.
No partying or sloot distractions has made it way easier for me to chase career goals.

Not wanting kids is a purely western fenomenon for a reason. Its Low test af.

Have fun with your video games & disease ridden pusy from time to time. Sure beats passing down your genes!
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Couldn't see living any other way, tbh. I don't think I would like life if I wasn't coming home to my kids every day, watching them grow and spending time with my wife.
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