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post 1686819083 07-19-2023, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Okay finally you've hit something worth discussing. How much money does one need to be happy once all necessities are met? This is where society comes into play - humans are by their nature a "keeping up with the joneses" type.
Comparison is the thief of joy really applies to human ego and which is why the vast majority of humans act as they do.

Humans also, by nature, tend to constantly want "more" and "new", it's difficult for humans to remain happy amidst stagnation.
What happens when you have enough money that nothing is really new anymore? Let's say you eat $500 meals every day for 10 years...does it ever become just food?
post 1686819183 07-19-2023, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By PaulJerome
Agreed for the most part. Being poor is way worse than be filthy rich. Still the poor guy may have a wife and kids who love him and the rich guy may be hiring prostitutes. Like I said before. Money does not buy happiness, but at least it allows you to pick your own type of misery.
Exactly.
post 1686819353 07-19-2023, 03:37 PM
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Money DOES make you happy.
post 1686819403 07-19-2023, 03:37 PM
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post 1686819523 07-19-2023, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Life is obviously way more varied than that, and why do you even mention things that you've never even come close to experiencing?
We are having a thought experiment here...not discussing any one person specifically.
post 1686819683 07-19-2023, 03:41 PM
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post 1686821893 07-19-2023, 04:21 PM
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post 1686822023 07-19-2023, 04:24 PM
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The Gilgo Beach serial killer was a rich guy with his own architectural firm on 5th ave NYC and he clearly wasn't happy
post 1686822123 07-19-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By userKH10IV9KBMX
The Gilgo Beach serial killer was a rich guy with his own architectural firm on 5th ave NYC and he clearly wasn't happy
He needed adventure that money couldn't buy apparently.
post 1686822193 07-19-2023, 04:28 PM
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My dads fam owns a church and a daycare and have made millions they seem happy
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post 1686822213 07-19-2023, 04:28 PM
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If you're an unhappy person, money won't change that. Maybe decrease stress, but you ain't going to start adopting good habits.
post 1686822463 07-19-2023, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By WaveyBaby
My dads fam owns a church and a daycare and have made millions they seem happy
damn, time to open up a church.

all miscers r welcome
post 1686822593 07-19-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
Explain the mechanism by which it buys it

What happens when everything money can buy just becomes normal life and you get used to it?
It still made you happier.

Money is the vehicle which allows you to upgrade your life. Friends, social status, women.

It's notneeded to obtain these things but it certainly helps.
"It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience."

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post 1686822863 07-19-2023, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic
It still made you happier.

Money is the vehicle which allows you to upgrade your life. Friends, social status, women.

It's notneeded to obtain these things but it certainly helps.
Nothing wrong with a little help, but i like to think people worth having in your life will accept you regardless of your economic status...of course if you're homeless or something people may be weary of you. Look at the misc...people come here from all walks of life, don't pay a cent and still interact on some level.
post 1686823843 07-19-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
You don't sound happy.
of course im not happy.i got too many people to fuk up and not enough time.if i had money id just pay them to take care of it.but i gotta do my own dirty work.goddam it im getting tired of ops troll.so you got a chit house chit car chit family and chit food and your happy.WE FUKKING GET IT!! FUKK OFF YOU ANNOYYING FUKKING TROOLLL!FUK YOUR FAT UGLY WIFE AND STFU!WE GET IT!!
post 1686824103 07-19-2023, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Akd123
of course im not happy.i got too many people to fuk up and not enough time.if i had money id just pay them to take care of it.but i gotta do my own dirty work.goddam it im getting tired of ops troll.so you got a chit house chit car chit family and chit food and your happy.WE FUKKING GET IT!! FUKK OFF YOU ANNOYYING FUKKING TROOLLL!FUK YOUR FAT UGLY WIFE AND STFU!WE GET IT!!
You can come to church with me if you want. Nothing formal...cool pastor I've known since I was 7-8.
post 1686824163 07-19-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By WaveyBaby
My dads fam owns a church and a daycare and have made millions they seem happy
Millionaire pastor?
post 1686824643 07-19-2023, 05:13 PM
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post 1686824893 07-19-2023, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes I’ve never been rich but I’ve had WAYYYY more money than I needed and we were spending it on a bunch of materialistic crap that did not improve my life at all.

Some of the happiest times of my life were when we were just starting out and we were broke.

Imo money is irrelevant to happiness once you have enough for basic needs basic security basic comfortable lifestyle. Beyond that it doesn’t matter.
I agree! I remember some of those happy times too...we were renting rooms in people's houses for like $400/month at the time...doing free stuff or looking for deals/coupons as we saved up for our vision of a better life.
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post 1686825363 07-19-2023, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
If you use money to “upgrade” friends they are not your real friends. Real friends are only the people who are there for you when you are broke and without any social status.
We have a bingo. That's why anytime I thought about "living large" to gain status or a different set of friends I really had to go into deep thought about why I was considering it and the ramifications. One time I may have been having a near mid life crisis and thought about a big home on the lake and a Ferrari just to show people how successful I was.
post 1686825373 07-19-2023, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes I’ve never been rich but I’ve had WAYYYY more money than I needed and we were spending it on a bunch of materialistic crap that did not improve my life at all.

Some of the happiest times of my life were when we were just starting out and we were broke.

Imo money is irrelevant to happiness once you have enough for basic needs basic security basic comfortable lifestyle. Beyond that it doesn’t matter.
Your problem, apart from the deep rooted and severe mental health issues, is that your happiness depends on others. If you can't be happy by yourself, then you'll never be happy with anyone else.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Your problem, apart from the deep rooted and severe mental health issues, is that your happiness depends on others. If you can't be happy by yourself, then you'll never be happy with anyone else.
we could say the same about money...if you aren't happy with the basics covered, there could be a good chance you won't be happy with any amount of money...true lasting happiness that is.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
we could say the same about money...if you aren't happy with the basics covered, there could be a good chance you won't be happy with any amount of money...true lasting happiness that is.
Hard to be happy when you're about to be homeless.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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OP's statement is only ever said by those without money.

We all experience life's pains (physical, emotional and financial), but when you can throw money at them to solve them, it does make life a bit easier, in turn leaving you a little happier.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Hard to be happy when you're about to be homeless.
Hence why I said the basics covered. Large space between rich and about to be homeless.
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Why do people have this misconception that all rich people are like the celebrities that off themselves or have serious issues. More often than not rich people in the civilian world become that way because they have a good positive mindset and we're fulfilled before they got money. Their money is a side effect of their personal development or work ethic. Honestly most of the rich people I know IRL are more like that PaulJerome guy. They're not perfect but they do have a better mindset than poor people I know and aren't consumed by hedonism. I think the depression comes when you use/want your money for the wrong reasons or materialism. You'll never have enough doing that kinda chit.
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; and if it is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
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Originally Posted By TDR24
OP's statement is only ever said by those without money.

We all experience life's pains (physical, emotional and financial), but when you can throw money at them to solve them, it does make life a bit easier, in turn leaving you a little happier.
You can't simply throw money all of life's pains. Health issues, death of parents/spouse, children problems, etc. If you told me I could buy my way out of those events, THAT would get me grinding for wealth.
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Originally Posted By iamdetermined
Why do people have this misconception that all rich people are like the celebrities that off themselves or have serious issues. More often than not rich people in the civilian world become that way because they have a good positive mindset and we're fulfilled before they got money. Their money is a side effect of their personal development or work ethic. Honestly most of the rich people I know IRL are more like that PaulJerome guy. They're not perfect but they do have a better mindset than poor people I know and aren't consumed by hedonism. I think the depression comes when you use/want your money for the wrong reasons or materialism. You'll never have enough doing that kinda chit.
Insightful.
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