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post 1480129821 01-22-2017, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
^this sounds like total bro-science and she sounds like one of those nutty fad diet women.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/does-inf...tem-may-396048

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37166293
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Have you watched the recent Joe Rogan Podcast with DR Rhonda Patrick, where she discusses studies that show a positive correlation with depression and inflammation?

She also talks about how to heal inflammation (ie. avoid sugar, consume anything than water within an 12 hours window, and grow your own broccoli sprouts to eat, decrease lifestyle stress).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxM_CLsvieE

I experienced the link recently. My stomach issues flared up, and everytime I would have a bout of stomach pain, or discomfort I my mood would noticeably drop, and I would have a lot negative thoughts (I suffered from depression from 17 to 22, and it was the same mindset). Then after the pains or discomfort passed, I would go back to my general optimistic mood.

From this experience I realised first hand that the 'gut-brain' connection was real, and after listening to Dr Rhonda Patrick, I realised that inflammation in my stomach was probably the culprit.
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird⏩
What.

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post 1480133421 01-22-2017, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
Feeling like you have no purpose in life is a rather legitimate claim for depression. That's why you see the suicide rate increase dramatically for men after retirement.
I understand but you can also beat that feeling by joining a social club, etc. you don't necessarily need drugs.
Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
You really need to study brain chemistry. Depression can be triggered in anyone regardless of life circumstances as a result of a neurochemical imbalance.
Actually I have but my point is that some forms of depression can be beat by other means. You should read this.
http://public.wsu.edu/~bryanfry/Laur...%20Spheres.pdf
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post 1480134341 01-22-2017, 09:40 AM
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This is also a good documentary about this topic

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Originally Posted By JD805⏩
Actually I have but my point is that some forms of depression can be beat by other means. You should read this.
http://public.wsu.edu/~bryanfry/Laur...%20Spheres.pdf
That's not your point. You were discussing what triggers depression as was the topic of my responses. If you wish to digress and delve into how to properly treat depression we can do so also. As I stated earlier, I feel that the most effective and successful treatment is physical health accomplished by focusing on diet and maintaining a regime of at least an hour of vigorous exercise per day. But that's for young, physically capable men. I'm not an expert but I probably wouldn't treat an elderly the same as someone my own age.

I'm not in favor of treating most cases of depression with medication. As stated previously:
Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
Yeah, therapists are quick to get out that prescription pad but honestly a minimum of an hour per day of vigorous exercise is more effective and probably virtually 100% successful. There are extreme cases where a patient's neurochemicals need to be sorted out with the help of pharmaceuticals but the rest of the time is just big pharma using people to make a healthy profit.
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Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
That's not your point. You were discussing what triggers depression as was the topic of my responses. If you wish to digress and delve into how to properly treat depression we can do so also. As I stated earlier, I feel that the most effective and successful treatment is physical health accomplished by focusing on diet and maintaining a regime of at least an hour of vigorous exercise per day. But that's for young, physically capable men. I'm not expert but I probably wouldn't treat an elderly the same as someone my own age.
It was my understanding that you feel that depression is a mental illness that can be cured through medication and that you validate all forms of depression as the same. Where as I feel only some forms of depression are legitimate and others aren't. The link I posted talks about how someone with bipolar and how she coped with her mental illness and the thing that helped her the most weren't the meds but the fact that she had someone she had stable foster parents and some stability in her life.
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Originally Posted By JD805⏩
It was my understanding that you feel that depression is a mental illness that can be cured through medication and that you validate all forms of depression as the same. Where as I feel only some forms of depression are legitimate and others aren't. The link I posted talks about how someone with bipolar and how she coped with her mental illness and the thing that helped her the most weren't the meds but the fact that she had someone she had stable foster parents and some stability in her life.
Well, I don't how you came to that conclusion as I never mentioned any forms of treatment when replying to your posts.
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Because culture hates men, DEAD SRS.

Women are this ultra entitled class and if you criticize it you are ostracized.
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Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
Well, I don't how you came to that conclusion as I never mentioned any forms of treatment when replying to your posts.
So where do we disagree ?
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post 1480140101 01-22-2017, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By JD805⏩
So where do we disagree ?
Originally Posted By JD805⏩
What counts as a mental illness ? don't mean to be rude but some people just need to grow a pair.
I agreed with this assertion and tried to elaborate.
Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
I think the difference between the need to grow a pair and clinical depression is the point where you begin to lose control of your life. For instance, losing the will to get up in the morning so you constantly miss work. It may manifest itself with physical ailments as well like migraine headaches or impotence or high blood pressure. The state of your mental well being can impact virtually everything in your life.
I believe you generally agree with statement. But then you said something I totally disagree with.
Originally Posted By JD805⏩
My point is that some people are depressed over things that aren't a big deal in my opinion. I can understand why someone who lost their child to suicide would be depressed and have a hard time getting out of bed but when someone is depressed because they feel like life has no purpose or something along that line it makes it difficult for me to sympathize with them.
To which I responded:
Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
Feeling like you have no purpose in life is a rather legitimate claim for depression. That's why you see the suicide rate increase dramatically for men after retirement.
Then you also had this little gem of a post:
Originally Posted By JD805⏩
No offense but that's kind of an insult to people who are depressed because they have cancer, lost a child, or someone to suicide. I think people like you need to get over yourselves, sorry to be rude but life ain't that bad.

Edit: What has helped me overcome my "depression" is kind of looking down on people who are depressed and just telling myself that only the strongest ones are the ones that are going to make it. Works like a charm.
Which seems fraught with ignorance and anecdotal evidence so I suggested studying neurochemistry because:
Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
You really need to study brain chemistry. Depression can be triggered in anyone regardless of life circumstances as a result of a neurochemical imbalance.
So we came to agreement that in most cases medication is not the answer. It's ineffective and sometimes does more harm than good. Where we disagree is when emotional strain manifests itself as clinical depression and what may trigger that depression. It doesn't have to be a life event such as disease or death. It can come out of nowhere as a result of a neurochemical imbalance. These people don't need to simply grow a pair. They need treatment. It can happen to anyone, be they white, black, man, woman, rich or poor. Did Kurt Cobain need to just grow a pair? Maybe Robin Williams too?
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Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
I agreed with this assertion and tried to elaborate.



I believe you generally agree with statement. But then you said something I totally disagree with.



To which I responded:



Then you also had this little gem of a post:



Which seems fraught with ignorance and anecdotal evidence so I suggested studying neurochemistry because:



So we came to agreement that in most cases medication is not the answer. It's ineffective and sometimes does more harm than good. Where we disagree is when emotional strain manifests itself as clinical depression and what may trigger that depression. It doesn't have to be a life event such as disease or death. It can come out of nowhere as a result of a neurochemical imbalance. These people don't need to simply grow a pair. They need treatment. It can happen to anyone, be they white, black, man, woman, rich or poor. Did Kurt Cobain need to just grow a pair? Maybe Robin Williams too?
What's wrong with the gem I posted ? and I agree that there cases where depression can be caused by a chemical imbalance but that's not always the case and the link I posted talks about that. If you read you would get a better idea.
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Originally Posted By JD805⏩
What's wrong with the gem I posted ? and I agree that there cases where depression can be caused by a chemical imbalance but that's not always the case and the link I posted talks about that. If you read you would get a better idea.
Show me where I said that a chemical imbalance is always the cause of depression. That assertion is contradicted in the post where I state that depression can be caused by a feeling of lack of purpose when onset by retirement, a life event.

Look, I think I've given you more than enough courtesy at this point by responding to your posts and answering your questions but at this point it feels that you're trying to argue for the sake of arguing.
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Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
Show me where I said that a chemical imbalance is always the cause of depression. That assertion is contradicted in the post where I state that depression can be caused by a feeling of lack of purpose when onset by retirement, a life event.

Look, I think I've given you more than enough courtesy at this point by responding to your posts and answering your questions but at this point it feels that you're trying to argue for the sake of arguing.
I think we're both on the same page but have different views on what counts as a valid reason to be depressed.
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
Men are the disposable sex which is why chit like this gets said and no one bats an eyelid

I am trying to look at this quote from a logical perspective and it still comes off as pandering to the leftist feminist agenda.
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Originally Posted By Rambostyne⏩
This is the kind of person the left fought so hard to be able to use which ever restroom he desires.



Imagine having a daughter and seeing this guy going into a public restroom behind her.
Real talk, wtf is going on in this picture. Is this person playing a joke or are they really a transgender identifying person?
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With the super macho alpha male culture you guys want, comes betacuck men not crying about their problems like *******s.
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Originally Posted By GaloisTheory⏩
With the super macho alpha male culture you guys want, comes betacuck men not crying about their problems like *******s.
I'll bet in a culture where not only would it be acceptable to be a macho alpha male but it would be celebrated that there were be far fewer betas having problems they need to cry about.
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Originally Posted By Rexcalibr⏩
Real talk, wtf is going on in this picture. Is this person playing a joke or are they really a transgender identifying person?
All the background information I have here is that actor James Woods posted this via Twitter yesterday.
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This thread reminds me of Rafkalf.

i wonder how he's doing?
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
This thread reminds me of Rafkalf.

i wonder how he's doing?
This thread reminded me of CJ. RIP.
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
^this sounds like total bro-science and she sounds like one of those nutty fad diet women.
as someone who was depressed from 14-19 i can confirm the difference your diet makes.

From 14-19 i ate like ****, processed foods, tons of sugar etc etc, ballooned to 230 and was depressed AF, some days i couldnt even get out of bed, all i wanted to do was lay there and TBH i did think of ending it there and the only reason i didnt was cause i love my parents and wouldnt wanna put them through it

One day, i decided i wasnt gonna take that **** anymore and decided to lose weight, and realized the best way to do that was to eliminate all processed foods and stay in a deficit. I started to feel better and better everyday and slowly came out of my depression.

Since then ive read a few studies that link high fructose corn syrup with depression due to its decreased absorption by the body, leading to fructose staying in the body, and reacting with tryptophan, an amino acid that is important in creating serotonin in the body, AKA the happy hormone. Less tryp, less happy.

Obviously diet isnt the cause of ALL depression but i feel that simply changing your diet could prevent and cure numerous cases of depression without meds, and adding in physical activity could help as well. Estrogen levels also play a role, and thats why high test is important.

People will change their diet to avoid cancer (avoid processed meats and red meat) but wont do it to avoid depression and that confuses me. At the very worst you try it out, realize you still have depression and get more help after eating healthy and exercising for a month and becoming even the slightest bit healthier.

call it broscience but as someone who has been there and done that, there has to at least be some connection, and maybe when i get a bit more educated ill undergo my own study and report back

cliffs of post; if depressed avoid high fructose corn syrup and exercise and report back in a month
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Because privilege. Also the blacks and latinos usually kill each other before they get the chance to kill themselves. Asians are too busy making grandchildren and stemcelling.
If convincing yourself of this horsechit makes u feel better so be it.
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Because men are not suppose to be emotional, weak, talk about their problems etc. I at one point in my life was legit feeling depressed, borderline suicidal (had a string of events that happened in a short period of time) and I talked to an ex-gf about it. At first she tried to help me, but then saw it as an opportunity to take advantage, tried to get me to buy here a plane ticket to go on a vacation. WtF...luckily I got way better and have never felt that down again, but it made me realize that men just can't talk about that kind of stuff w/o being mocked, looked down on, used etc.
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Originally Posted By Maximus93⏩
It's biology. Men throughout history have been the expendable sex and women the one needing protection/conservation. It directly ties into our reproduction and the fact that it only takes one man to impregnate thousands of women but one woman with thousands of men will still only be able to have offspring at a certain pace.

So we evolved to value the lives of women over men. This is seen today in society but is masked under the veil of 'equality' where women are constantly looking for escalation in social value. The sexes were never unequal. This is the ruse played by feminism that reaffirms the cosmic dance of our species over millions of years.

I'm pretty tired right now but that feels about right to me.
thread should have stopped at this post, this is exactly the 'why' behind it. reps brah
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
^this sounds like total bro-science and she sounds like one of those nutty fad diet women.
Not bro science, real science.
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Why does no one ever talk about male mental health?

Because no one would listen anyway.
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It's a national disgrace. Nobody wants to talk about mental health, and nobody who wants to talk about mental health wants to talk about male suicide. It's pushed into the background along with the other unavoidable nightmares of society, present and regrettable but otherwise inescapable.

Socialisation is a very important part of gender roles - it's just far from the only or even the most important thing, which is where SJWs get it all very wrong. But fact is men, both by nature and nurture, keep their feelings hidden and fail to reach out for help, as well as having social circles which drop off as they age. It's a very puzzling observation with no clear answer yet, but women are actually better at maintaining supportive peer groups throughout life. Men fail as providers or fall victim to depression or other mental illnesses, and live grim, marginal existences alone until they take their own lives.
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this grow a pair attitude is the driving force behind these ridiculously high suicidal rates in society today.
@JD805 who the **** are you to say whether or not someone has a legitimate reason to be depressed. Holy fuark the ridiculous ignorance in this thread is making me angry, can't believe IDIOTS still think in this way.
i'm out.
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