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post 1543820221 02-14-2018, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By 21stCenturyKid⏩
Japan is an extremely wealthy, homogeneous society with the highest average IQ in the world. This is the reason for their measly 6 gun related homicides in all of 2014.
Agreed, even if they had 500 gun stores on each street that wouldnt change.

The root cause is the kind of people living in the country. However that cant be changed. We have pieces of s*it in this country and we need to adjust accordingly
post 1543820311 02-14-2018, 05:10 PM
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Damn I live 10 miles from this school, really hits close to home.
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
Oh really? Because japan had6gun related homicides in their entire country in 2014. In this shooting alone, 17 people died, which is 11 more than an entire years worth of gun deaths in japan.

So yes, you kinda are stupid to not believe that gun crime would drastically reduce if we got rid of them
Japan is a homogeneous country. If you remove minorities and suicides from the stats America is on par with Japan as far as murder rate
post 1543820391 02-14-2018, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
Then take a look at Australia if you want a society that is more comparable to America. No guns, and almost no gun deaths there per year.
While Australia is a good example of the benefits of tight gun control I don’t think it’s fair to compare America and Australia

America has 14x australias population and a gun culture that’s engrained into their way of life. Not to mention a rediciclous amount of weapons per capita

The gun control laws brought in back in 96’ only worked because our small population handed in a vast majority of firearms to be destroyed due to the buy back scheme that was affordable once again due to a small population and lack of a large amount of firearms.

People always use Australia as an example without really understanding what exactly the culture down here is like and the collective thought and emotion over 22 years ago when everything changed.

Apples and oranges. America and Australia is pretty different at the core
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
Then take a look at Australia if you want a society that is more comparable to America. No guns, and almost no gun deaths there per year.
They're also isolated and guns have to be brought in by sea or air.

We happen to have mexico, a nation with 5 times as much gun violence as us, as a neighbor.

It's not as simple as your 23 year old brain thinks it is, you cannot compare countries when talking about gun violence because there are so many more factors than just guns => population => deaths by guns. It is far, far more complicated than that.
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post 1543820481 02-14-2018, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
pretty sick you'd use this moment to troll people.
What do you understand by trolling people, saying that I feel bad for those kids and that I don't agree with miscers logic about keeping guns available for every crazy person ? K.
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post 1543820641 02-14-2018, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By meenman83⏩
Why is a 19 year old still in high school?
Just saw he was expelled for disciplinary reasons- that and his social media how was nobody looking into this grown man with obvious suspicion to commit violence
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Originally Posted By Youppi⏩
“Banning guns won’t work, because banning things doesn’t work”

- people who want to ban Muslims but want to do absolutely nothing about these more common massacres.
you are really, really dumb. For real.

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Originally Posted By 21stCenturyKid⏩
Japan is an extremely wealthy, homogeneous society with the highest average IQ in the world. This is the reason for their measly 6 gun related homicides in all of 2014.
Yep, the homogeneity gives even criminals a sense of connection to the rest of the society. Even the Yakuza (mob) in Japan is polite and rarely targets civilians. I saw a video of a Yakuza celebration day in Japan (they basically parade around in those underwear things while drinking, dancing, etc) and one of the guys smashed a glass or bottle near some onlookers and then proceeded to bow/apologize for committing that act. The Japanese don't even litter as they understand that this is a "quality of life offense" which affects everyone.

When you have a society like America's which features drastic differences in wealth/race/community/culture it just opens the door for fallout along those lines.
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I saw an interview with a student who said police led them out of their room past the dead, bloody bodies of three students and a teacher. Way to go guys, couldnt even throw a blanket or a tarp down over them first?
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
Explain with valid arguments why so many countries score much lower in the crimes department compared to US,not bullchit. Your cousin went to prison and now has a gun, but it's normal for you to be surrounded by people like him while you preach your pro gun speech. Cool.
Roxy, you don't live here, aren't from here, have never owned a gun, have never shot a gun, and don't know anyone with guns, don't know chit about our laws, who can have them, and who can't. I've NEVER seen you, or most of the folks who're anti-gun here, comment about the shootings in the inner-cities, NEVER seen you comment about illegally-owned firearms, NEVER seen you comment about how gun-free zones tend to have the highest crime rates. I haven't been mean to you once since you've been running around, trolling the fukk out of and jimmy-rustling everyone with your ridiculously opinionated comments. But seriously, you're going to go ahead and use this shooting to call every single one of us gun-owners "retards?" You don't know jack chit about any of it and you're basing your opinion off of fukking headlines. Sit down and shut the fuk up, for once.
post 1543820971 02-14-2018, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Agreed, even if they had 500 gun stores on each street that wouldnt change.

The root cause is the kind of people living in the country. However that cant be changed. We have pieces of s*it in this country and we need to adjust accordingly


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post 1543821011 02-14-2018, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
Yep, the homogeneity gives even criminals a sense of connection to the rest of the society. Even the Yakuza (mob) in Japan is polite and rarely targets civilians. I saw a video of a Yakuza celebration day in Japan (they basically parade around in those underwear things while drinking, dancing, etc) and one of the guys smashed a glass or bottle near some onlookers and then proceeded to bow/apologize for committing that act. The Japanese don't even litter as they understand that this is a "quality of life offense" which affects everyone.

When you have a society like America's which features drastic differences in wealth/race/community/culture it just opens the door for fallout along those lines.
It has more to do with collectivist cultures vs individualistic cultures. Not the homogeneity of race/wealth
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post 1543821021 02-14-2018, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
What do you understand by trolling people, saying that I feel bad for those kids and that I don't agree with miscers logic about keeping guns available for every crazy person ? K.
Read what I quoted you with. You called everyone who wants to buy guns a retard. That has nothing to do with what you're saying ^^^ there, you're acting like you have empathy but in reality this is all to troll people.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
What do you understand by trolling people, saying that I feel bad for those kids and that I don't agree with miscers logic about keeping guns available for every crazy person ? K.
No you were chitting on America then calling someone retarded as if they strengthens your argument. While I agree getting rid of guns would lessen the amount of gun related deaths per year, that doesn't mean its an ideal solution. If we cut off everyone's hands there'd be no more school shootings but would it be worth it? Clearly getting rid of guns is not something most Americans want, and its not as if since the existence of guns there have been school shootings. The problem is rooted somewhere deeper in our society, and to blame it simply on guns is foolish. Who knows, maybe we get rid of guns and these kids start throwing acid in people's faces or using mustard gas.
post 1543821101 02-14-2018, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Japan is a homogeneous country. If you remove minorities and suicides from the stats America is on par with Japan as far as gun crime
Wrong. The non-Hispanic white homicide rate per 100,000 in the US is 2.66, while the homicide rate in Japan is 0.31. Obviously, more murders with guns will be committed in the US so no need to get in that merit.

/e the CDC stats are about death rates, but the vast majority of homicides are interracial. 12% of white victims were killed by blacks and 8% of black victims were killed by whites, so that would make the white homicide rate slightly lower (probably ~2.5), still a far cry from Japan's.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/...s/mm6631a9.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
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post 1543821111 02-14-2018, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Japan is a homogeneous country. If you remove minorities and suicides from the stats America is on par with Japan as far as gun crime
what about school shootings in general?

lol at blaming it on minorities when it's almost always an FA white kid

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post 1543821191 02-14-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation⏩
I saw an interview with a student who said police led them out of their room past the dead, bloody bodies of three students and a teacher. Way to go guys, couldnt even throw a blanket or a tarp down over them first?
Removing students from a dangerous situation is probably the first priority dummy
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation⏩
I saw an interview with a student who said police led them out of their room past the dead, bloody bodies of three students and a teacher. Way to go guys, couldnt even throw a blanket or a tarp down over them first?
Yeah lets mess with a crime scene because feels.
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This is why u wanna be cool with the freaks. There was several accounts of Columbine killers sparing students they were cool with during their rampage
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Originally Posted By STA556⏩
Roxy, you don't live here, aren't from here, have never owned a gun, have never shot a gun, and don't know anyone with guns, don't know chit about our laws, who can have them, and who can't. I've NEVER seen you, or most of the folks who're anti-gun here, comment about the shootings in the inner-cities, NEVER seen you comment about illegally-owned firearms, NEVER seen you comment about how gun-free zones tend to have the highest crime rates. I haven't been mean to you once since you've been running around, trolling the fukk out of and jimmy-rustling everyone with your ridiculously opinionated comments. But seriously, you're going to go ahead and use this shooting to call every single one of us gun-owners "retards?" You don't know jack chit about any of it and you're basing your opinion off of fukking headlines. Sit down and shut the fuk up, for once.
I said mostly, that does exclude the ones that I find reasonable and own guns, I'm sure there are very smart and calm people who own guns, but never intended to kill someone and actually wanted to never use it. HOWEVER, those are a small percent on top of the high percent of moarons that misuse guns, so in the end it's not worth it, better forbid it for everybody. Not trolling, just my opinion about guns as an outsider.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
What do you understand by trolling people, saying that I feel bad for those kids and that I don't agree with miscers logic about keeping guns available for every crazy person ? K.
It's not that you're a bad person for saying what you are, you're just really dumb for saying it
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I said mostly, that does exclude the ones that I find reasonable and own guns, I'm sure there are very smart and calm people who own guns, but never intended to kill someone and actually wanted to never use it. HOWEVER, those are a small percent on top of the high percent of moarons that misuse guns, so in the end it's not worth it, better forbid it for everybody. Not trolling, just my opinion about guns as an outsider.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I said mostly, that does exclude the ones that I find reasonable and own guns, I'm sure there are very smart and calm people who own guns, but never intended to kill someone and actually wanted to never use it. HOWEVER, those are a small percent on top of the high percent of moarons that misuse guns, so in the end it's not worth it,better forbid it for everybody. Not trolling, just my opinion about guns as an outsider.
IDGAF about who's rustled, what are they going to do, shoot me ? loled
Again, you believe that criminals will follow the law when in reality, you will just be crippling law abiding citizens
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I said mostly, that does exclude the ones that I find reasonable and own guns, I'm sure there are very smart and calm people who own guns, but never intended to kill someone and actually wanted to never use it. HOWEVER, those are a small percent on top of the high percent of moarons that misuse guns, so in the end it's not worth it, better forbid it for everybody. Not trolling, just my opinion about guns as an outsider.
IDGAF about who's rustled, what are they going to do, shoot me ? loled
Okay, so that small percentage. Are their guns legally-owned or illegally-owned, most of the time? This is exactly my point; you don't have any facts to go with your arguments/opinions because you don't fukking know any. You just sit there and mouth off like you know everything about gun ownership and gun crimes in America, when in reality, you're just as informed on it as I am about gun laws wherever you live--not fukking informed, at all.

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The folks who live here and have similar opinions, although I don't agree with them, they're a lot closer to the action than you are and know more about this country than you do. Again, you're not helping yourself by spouting off at the mouth, like that. You're just ignorant as fuk.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I said mostly, that does exclude the ones that I find reasonable and own guns, I'm sure there are very smart and calm people who own guns, but never intended to kill someone and actually wanted to never use it. HOWEVER, those are a small percent on top of the high percent of moarons that misuse guns, so in the end it's not worth it, better forbid it for everybody. Not trolling, just my opinion about guns as an outsider.
IDGAF about who's rustled, what are they going to do, shoot me ? loled
So, in your opinion, if they ban guns, that small percent wouldnt get/buy them?

Criminals don't care about the law. If they want to kill, they gonna kill.

Just let some teachers have a gun inside the school.
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Another "gun free" zone.

Who could have predicted that?
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I said mostly, that does exclude the ones that I find reasonable and own guns, I'm sure there are very smart and calm people who own guns, but never intended to kill someone and actually wanted to never use it. HOWEVER, those are a small percent on top of the high percent of moarons that misuse guns, so in the end it's not worth it, better forbid it for everybody. Not trolling, just my opinion about guns as an outsider.
IDGAF about who's rustled, what are they going to do, shoot me ? loled
Lol. You were green for a whole day. Nice.
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