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How's it going brah? should have lost at least 2 lbs since this time last week. If you haven't, wtf are you DOING
Seriously, would you do it if someone offered you 1k, 2k? You can do it you just need to keep going
Seriously, would you do it if someone offered you 1k, 2k? You can do it you just need to keep going
12-07-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
yeah, i'm losing 2 a week. i'm starting to notice changesHow's it going brah? should have lost at least 2 lbs since this time last week. If you haven't, wtf are you DOING
Seriously, would you do it if someone offered you 1k, 2k? You can do it you just need to keep going
Seriously, would you do it if someone offered you 1k, 2k? You can do it you just need to keep going
there's hair where there's never been hair before
my voice is deepening
sometimes i'll wake up and there's a sticky mess in my pants
i think these are all good signs
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12-10-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
nice to see that you are taking peoples advice/help/interest seriously.yeah, i'm losing 2 a week. i'm starting to notice changes
there's hair where there's never been hair before
my voice is deepening
sometimes i'll wake up and there's a sticky mess in my pants
i think these are all good signs
there's hair where there's never been hair before
my voice is deepening
sometimes i'll wake up and there's a sticky mess in my pants
i think these are all good signs
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12-10-2018, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
If this is about visible abs, what direct ab exercises are you doing? At what frequency?

I was gonna tell you about the routine they put guys from my old MT gym on a month out when they wanted abs for their fight pic

12-10-2018, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
LoldI'm not even sure that you actually can lose lean body mass if you lift heavy and eat a lot of protein while cutting
12-10-2018, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
I was gonna tell you about the routine they put guys from my old MT gym on a month out when they wanted abs for their fight pic

I was gonna tell you about the routine they put guys from my old MT gym on a month out when they wanted abs for their fight pic

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Originally Posted By LexBrah⏩
This thread feels like the twilight zone. People telling me to eat more when I'm losing 2lbs a week and chit. Fukk that. Do you guys seriously lose 3lbs a week? Never ever seen anyone post a cutting thread where they pulled that off unless they were 300lbs. I'm not gonna change a single thing in this home stretch.nice to see that you are taking peoples advice/help/interest seriously.
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12-11-2018, 01:33 PM
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You got this.
We won't allow you to take a ban tho.
We won't allow you to take a ban tho.
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12-12-2018, 05:53 AM
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hey cockfish, you ignored my previous post.
If you're not doing resistance training please do it nowwwww. The increase in lean body mass will increase your BMR and ultimately the amount of calories you burn. Not to mention the calories you'll burn from lifting, and you'll look better than just skinny.
I disagree with those telling you to eat more. I would agree if you had more time, but seeing as you don't it's desperation mode. I used to wrestle and would lose 10 lbs in a week on the reg. Keep the calories as low as you can without making yourself too crazy. Towards the end I would work on shifting to as few carbs as possible. Did you ever post your workout plan/diet? exercise science brah checking in
If you're not doing resistance training please do it nowwwww. The increase in lean body mass will increase your BMR and ultimately the amount of calories you burn. Not to mention the calories you'll burn from lifting, and you'll look better than just skinny.
I disagree with those telling you to eat more. I would agree if you had more time, but seeing as you don't it's desperation mode. I used to wrestle and would lose 10 lbs in a week on the reg. Keep the calories as low as you can without making yourself too crazy. Towards the end I would work on shifting to as few carbs as possible. Did you ever post your workout plan/diet? exercise science brah checking in
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Originally Posted By wrastler163⏩
hey cockfish, you ignored my previous post.
If you're not doing resistance training please do it nowwwww. The increase in lean body mass will increase your BMR and ultimately the amount of calories you burn. Not to mention the calories you'll burn from lifting, and you'll look better than just skinny.
I disagree with those telling you to eat more. I would agree if you had more time, but seeing as you don't it's desperation mode. I used to wrestle and would lose 10 lbs in a week on the reg. Keep the calories as low as you can without making yourself too crazy. Towards the end I would work on shifting to as few carbs as possible. Did you ever post your workout plan/diet? exercise science brah checking in
If you're not doing resistance training please do it nowwwww. The increase in lean body mass will increase your BMR and ultimately the amount of calories you burn. Not to mention the calories you'll burn from lifting, and you'll look better than just skinny.
I disagree with those telling you to eat more. I would agree if you had more time, but seeing as you don't it's desperation mode. I used to wrestle and would lose 10 lbs in a week on the reg. Keep the calories as low as you can without making yourself too crazy. Towards the end I would work on shifting to as few carbs as possible. Did you ever post your workout plan/diet? exercise science brah checking in
Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
I'm eating 200p/80c/40fNow 14 pages deep and almost halfway through December, can you cliff your macros and workout routine?
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
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12-12-2018, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Agreed on not doing HIIT with 80c, I'd feel like absolute chit at that level.I'm eating 200p/80c/40f
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
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12-12-2018, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Protein is on the high end, with your LBM, is there a reason you're eating 200g/day? You could get by with 1/2 of that (although, yeah, proteins, aim high).I'm eating 200p/80c/40f
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
Then 40g of fats? Eek. Good-bye hormones. I know, fats are calorie-dense and you're on a starvation-cut but you might really think about cutting some calories from protein and looking at a few more fat calories.
Lastly, you got the 80g of carbs. I'm guessing for energy? Are you timing them before your workouts? If not, do it -- otherwise, if you're eating the carbs and just using them to fuel the LISS, and you're doing a massive amount of LISS, then they are not serving any purpose. Right now, the ONLY purpose for any carbohydrate in your diet is one thing and one thing only, and that is to fuel resistance training.
If you eat one and they aren't fueling a workout, it's a waste of time and a wasted calorie.
Lastly, I have realistically looked at your progress. My honest-to-God opinion here is that you are 4-6 months out from abs or being at 10-11%.
October 1 to December 1, it looks like you went from 21-22% to 17-18%, and you are absolutely making progress but going from 22%-17%, that's a cake walk compared to even getting to 12% and, while I don't think I've been much lower than 12% personally so take that in mind here, but from anything I've ever heard from those that have -- getting from 12% to 10% takes more effort, more consistency and fat gets slower to leave as you have less of it.
So... while you might have progressed an admirable 4-5% drop in 2 months -- it's only going to get harder and slower. That is why I say 4-6 months, not because I enjoy being the bringer of bad news or being a dick.
Mis-judging your time frame is a #1 reason why cuts fail.
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12-12-2018, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Y thoI'm eating 200p/80c/40f
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
2-3 hours of LISS a day
low volume U/L split with no days off. anything more and i get woozy during the day at work and can't operate without adding carbs. same thing if i do higher intensity cardio. i think i've found the sweet spot. i kind of suspect that i could go nearly no carb if i didn't lift at all, but obv i would evolve to ultratwink form
anyone objectively looking at my results at the end will have to say that i did a pretty good cut, although my lack of experience caused me to be off on the timing (but only by a few weeks srs)
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12-12-2018, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By jesusxchrist⏩
Newbie cutting mistake. Walking is easy and you can do a lot of it. It does use up energy and it's an easy way to get a lot of cardio in.Y tho
Been there. Done that. Failed miserably, at least personally - although I was doing a few things wrong beyond this, so I can't just lay the blame of it on LISS.
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12-12-2018, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
i envy people who are on severe cuts and just sit around doing nothing. i could very easily do a psmf forever like that srs.Agreed on not doing HIIT with 80c, I'd feel like absolute chit at that level.
One of my favorite lines from Efferding - Which is the best workout? The one you'll stick with.
If it's working for you man, good on you.
One of my favorite lines from Efferding - Which is the best workout? The one you'll stick with.
If it's working for you man, good on you.
Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
12-14 by end of january srs. i wake up with a diamond cutter every morning, so i doubt my hormones have been affected at all. low fat only causes endocrine issues when it coincides with a fat soluble vitamin deficiency srs. you could be right about protein, but i've been finding that keeping protein up lowers my carb requirement (the amount needed to function at work without passing out). i figure there's a TEF advantage to protein and obv a muscle sparing effect.Protein is on the high end, with your LBM, is there a reason you're eating 200g/day? You could get by with 1/2 of that (although, yeah, proteins, aim high).
Then 40g of fats? Eek. Good-bye hormones. I know, fats are calorie-dense and you're on a starvation-cut but you might really think about cutting some calories from protein and looking at a few more fat calories.
Lastly, you got the 80g of carbs. I'm guessing for energy? Are you timing them before your workouts? If not, do it -- otherwise, if you're eating the carbs and just using them to fuel the LISS, and you're doing a massive amount of LISS, then they are not serving any purpose. Right now, the ONLY purpose for any carbohydrate in your diet is one thing and one thing only, and that is to fuel resistance training.
If you eat one and they aren't fueling a workout, it's a waste of time and a wasted calorie.
Lastly, I have realistically looked at your progress. My honest-to-God opinion here is that you are 4-6 months out from abs or being at 10-11%.
October 1 to December 1, it looks like you went from 21-22% to 17-18%, and you are absolutely making progress but going from 22%-17%, that's a cake walk compared to even getting to 12% and, while I don't think I've been much lower than 12% personally so take that in mind here, but from anything I've ever heard from those that have -- getting from 12% to 10% takes more effort, more consistency and fat gets slower to leave as you have less of it.
So... while you might have progressed an admirable 4-5% drop in 2 months -- it's only going to get harder and slower. That is why I say 4-6 months, not because I enjoy being the bringer of bad news or being a dick.
Mis-judging your time frame is a #1 reason why cuts fail.
Then 40g of fats? Eek. Good-bye hormones. I know, fats are calorie-dense and you're on a starvation-cut but you might really think about cutting some calories from protein and looking at a few more fat calories.
Lastly, you got the 80g of carbs. I'm guessing for energy? Are you timing them before your workouts? If not, do it -- otherwise, if you're eating the carbs and just using them to fuel the LISS, and you're doing a massive amount of LISS, then they are not serving any purpose. Right now, the ONLY purpose for any carbohydrate in your diet is one thing and one thing only, and that is to fuel resistance training.
If you eat one and they aren't fueling a workout, it's a waste of time and a wasted calorie.
Lastly, I have realistically looked at your progress. My honest-to-God opinion here is that you are 4-6 months out from abs or being at 10-11%.
October 1 to December 1, it looks like you went from 21-22% to 17-18%, and you are absolutely making progress but going from 22%-17%, that's a cake walk compared to even getting to 12% and, while I don't think I've been much lower than 12% personally so take that in mind here, but from anything I've ever heard from those that have -- getting from 12% to 10% takes more effort, more consistency and fat gets slower to leave as you have less of it.
So... while you might have progressed an admirable 4-5% drop in 2 months -- it's only going to get harder and slower. That is why I say 4-6 months, not because I enjoy being the bringer of bad news or being a dick.
Mis-judging your time frame is a #1 reason why cuts fail.
Originally Posted By jesusxchrist⏩
LISS is legit, dude. plus, it's enjoyable. my favorite thing to do is walk around under normal circumstances. the only downside is time, but i'd be fukken around anyway. you guys act like there's not metabolic difference between sitting at a desk in a 71 degree room vs walking around at a fast pace in 40 degree weather. the kcals add up. plus, you can do endless amounts without really touching muscle glycogen, which i don't want to have to repleteY tho
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People here exaggerate with the hormones science.....
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Are you gonna keep cutting trough January or is it bulk time, OP?
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
gonna keep cutting no matter how long it takes to hit 12% srs. keep an eye on the gallery in my sig to see updates in 2019 lol. i think end of january srsAre you gonna keep cutting trough January or is it bulk time, OP?
after that i'm gonna keep my diet where it is roughly and just add back in carbs and try to gain 10lbs of muscle in 2019 at least. i have no leg muscle so it's plausible.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
I think I'm gonna make a similar thread, only for bulking brah. Hope you don't get sent to band camp lmfao.gonna keep cutting no matter how long it takes to hit 12% srs. keep an eye on the gallery in my sig to see updates in 2019 lol. i think end of january srs
after that i'm gonna keep my diet where it is roughly and just add back in carbs and try to gain 10lbs of muscle in 2019 at least. i have no leg muscle so it's plausible.
after that i'm gonna keep my diet where it is roughly and just add back in carbs and try to gain 10lbs of muscle in 2019 at least. i have no leg muscle so it's plausible.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Maybe a drastic difference between sitting at a desk, but not a drastic difference between hitting the weights hard. The latter is more beneficial and is what will get you looking how you want. Hours of cardio is completely unnecessary but I get you're rushing the goal, although I think that's just going to hurt you in the end. (Bribe a mod to update the thread title to March).LISS is legit, dude. plus, it's enjoyable. my favorite thing to do is walk around under normal circumstances. the only downside is time, but i'd be fukken around anyway. you guys act like there's not metabolic difference between sitting at a desk in a 71 degree room vs walking around at a fast pace in 40 degree weather. the kcals add up. plus, you can do endless amounts without really touching muscle glycogen, which i don't want to have to replete
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
Washington state crew checking inDrive to Washington and buy some Bronkaid *******
Can't believe you bet $600 AND misc ban... and u won't even take the most effective fat burner available OTC
Can't believe you bet $600 AND misc ban... and u won't even take the most effective fat burner available OTC
what have your experiences with bronkaid been like?
i used bronkaid and then primatene last year and wasn’t sure if they did anything other than make me feel stimmed up like a junkie. wood you recommend?
need to know if they’re actually worth the few bucks spent. cut begins mid february and i should be shredded for Paradiso 2019
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
I'm losing/maintaining weight with daily Burger King whopper and chocolate pie for lunches. So, it's possible. I'll stop that mess January tho.Incidentally, my buddy (with whom I have the $600 bet) said he's still drinking on the weekends and that he recently got plastered and demolished a bunch of mcdonalds (which is apparently available in Chiang Mai). I called him out for psyops but he sent me a pic of the cheeseburger wrappers lol. No fukken idea what he's thinking, but I'm gonna rekk him. I haven't had a molecule of ethanol since August 18.
what page are your progress pics on? why not just post them on your dashboard for easy viewing
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
i'm doing it on top of lifting. doing more lifting and less walking just ups my carb requirement. i think i have a good mix.Maybe a drastic difference between sitting at a desk, but not a drastic difference between hitting the weights hard. The latter is more beneficial and is what will get you looking how you want. Hours of cardio is completely unnecessary but I get you're rushing the goal, although I think that's just going to hurt you in the end. (Bribe a mod to update the thread title to March).
Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
10 cups of green tea crew lol. green tea and beer (when i wasn't cutting) are the only drugs i take ever srs.Washington state crew checking in
what have your experiences with bronkaid been like?
i used bronkaid and then primatene last year and wasn’t sure if they did anything other than make me feel stimmed up like a junkie. wood you recommend?
what have your experiences with bronkaid been like?
i used bronkaid and then primatene last year and wasn’t sure if they did anything other than make me feel stimmed up like a junkie. wood you recommend?
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
sounds like the Asians who wake up and drink green tea every morning (ex. My parents)i'm doing it on top of lifting. doing more lifting and less walking just ups my carb requirement. i think i have a good mix.
10 cups of green tea crew lol. green tea and beer (when i wasn't cutting) are the only drugs i take ever srs.
10 cups of green tea crew lol. green tea and beer (when i wasn't cutting) are the only drugs i take ever srs.
how about you take me to a titty bar when we’re all shredded sometime brah since we’re relatively close in location
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
no im like 5 granny ur too old for this talkAren’t you like 12
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