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02-05-2019, 04:10 AM
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02-05-2019, 04:47 AM
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#152
Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
You are running because your BS argument has been destroyed, so you are tucking tail while trying (poorly) to save face. I've both trained and fought, and I'm sure others in this thread have besides you, so get off your high horse. Boxing up s great and I don't think anyone is denying that, but you pure delusion about how you think they can just wreck grapplers is what people are disagreeing with - because it's not accurate and you are clearly very biased and lacking objectivity on this. I started out primarily in striking and use to cope just like you.If you’re in a bar fight, wrestling is useless unless you want to hold onto the guy until someone stops it.
I’m betting on the boxer EVERY SINGLE TIME if he is head up with a wrestler lol. Now, if it’s the first time the boxer has ever stepped into an octogon vs someone who has been doing it their whole life, yea sure. Give me the all time great.
Meanwhile, good luck winning the street fight with grappling as your only skill. Good job bro. You took him down and got stomped out by bouncers. Meanwhile the boxer knocks dude out and gets out before the bouncers even know what’s happened.
Kick boxing / Boxing > grappling every time. Ask Ronda Rousey.
I’m out. Can’t argue with ppl who have never trained combat and have never fought.
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Edit - biggest male star the UFC has ever seen = mcgregor = boxing base.
Baddest woman on earth = nunes = boxing base
Rousey first devastating loss = Holm = Boxing base
There’s a reason for that..
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I’m betting on the boxer EVERY SINGLE TIME if he is head up with a wrestler lol. Now, if it’s the first time the boxer has ever stepped into an octogon vs someone who has been doing it their whole life, yea sure. Give me the all time great.
Meanwhile, good luck winning the street fight with grappling as your only skill. Good job bro. You took him down and got stomped out by bouncers. Meanwhile the boxer knocks dude out and gets out before the bouncers even know what’s happened.
Kick boxing / Boxing > grappling every time. Ask Ronda Rousey.
I’m out. Can’t argue with ppl who have never trained combat and have never fought.
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Edit - biggest male star the UFC has ever seen = mcgregor = boxing base.
Baddest woman on earth = nunes = boxing base
Rousey first devastating loss = Holm = Boxing base
There’s a reason for that..
Unsubbed.
02-05-2019, 05:12 AM
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Judo- (not just because I do it)
for the breakfalls( one of the
most important things to know in a fight and life in general) stability ( difficult to take down a judo fighter)awesome for all round throws/takedowns, has enough submissions / ground work to get you out of trouble
Boxing or Muay Thai would be second imo
for the breakfalls( one of the
most important things to know in a fight and life in general) stability ( difficult to take down a judo fighter)awesome for all round throws/takedowns, has enough submissions / ground work to get you out of trouble
Boxing or Muay Thai would be second imo
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02-05-2019, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
You should be more terrified to go against a wrestler.I mean traditional striking. Kicks, Knees, Elbows, Punching.
Ive been boxing for 21 years and I would be absolutely terrified to go against a Kick Boxer lol. that's about the only skill I fear. If someone is trained in Judo, M Thai, etc I wouldn't be as worried because in boxing youre trained to hold distance and use footwork to close distance quickly..
kick boxing is a whole different animal. They close distances entirely too quickly for just about any martial art to defend against.
Ive been boxing for 21 years and I would be absolutely terrified to go against a Kick Boxer lol. that's about the only skill I fear. If someone is trained in Judo, M Thai, etc I wouldn't be as worried because in boxing youre trained to hold distance and use footwork to close distance quickly..
kick boxing is a whole different animal. They close distances entirely too quickly for just about any martial art to defend against.
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02-05-2019, 05:41 AM
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02-05-2019, 06:49 AM
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I wrestled in 1999, 2000, 2001, i trained jiujitsu in 2006 and 2007, i trained boxing in 2006, 2007, 2014, i trained muay thai in 2006, 2007, 2014, 2017, 2018, i am only interested in training muay thai now
02-05-2019, 07:16 AM
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Krav Maga , I train in it currently .
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02-05-2019, 07:27 AM
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damn 6 pages and sh*t ton of *******s who've never trained in their life lol
also lol @ *******s who underestimate wrestling/bjj for real life scenarios. your goal if you're in a street/bar fight is 1) don't get taken to the ground; 2) if you do end up on the ground, better know how to get back up
you're not gonna roll there and try to pull some fancy submission, but a well executed takedown can end the fight in couple of seconds when you hit the other person with planet earth
also lol @ *******s who underestimate wrestling/bjj for real life scenarios. your goal if you're in a street/bar fight is 1) don't get taken to the ground; 2) if you do end up on the ground, better know how to get back up
you're not gonna roll there and try to pull some fancy submission, but a well executed takedown can end the fight in couple of seconds when you hit the other person with planet earth
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit softly.
02-05-2019, 07:28 AM
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#159
Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
Why not combine both?Eye pokes are not a viable tactic in a fight. It is much easier to just land a punch than an eye poke.
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02-05-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
Would bet my life without thinking twice that anyone of even remotely comparable size, sex, age and training experience to you who attends a good MMA school would f*ck you up easily 10 out of 10 times in a real fight.Krav Maga , I train in it currently .
02-05-2019, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
but bro mma can't gouge eyes and kick groin...how can they win against KM?Would bet my life without thinking twice that anyone of even remotely comparable size, sex, age and training experience to you who attends a good MMA school would f*ck you up easily 10 out of 10 times in a real fight.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit softly.
02-05-2019, 07:36 AM
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02-05-2019, 07:37 AM
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Why are the majority of arguments an appeal to strength via ad hominem?
Why do the majority of arguments rely on outliers and/or events that are not common place?
Why is everybody so worked up that people have differing opinions about what arts are more useful?
How many people arguingactuallytrain?
How much of the opinion that you have is based on a bias toward your preferred art?
And finally
E
There are plenty of things I know from wrestling that I cannot use in a BJJ tournament, and things I know from BJJ that I can't use in a freestyle or greco tournament.
Why do the majority of arguments rely on outliers and/or events that are not common place?
Why is everybody so worked up that people have differing opinions about what arts are more useful?
How many people arguingactuallytrain?
How much of the opinion that you have is based on a bias toward your preferred art?
And finally
E
Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
Tbh I would be willing to go on a limb and say that because MMA fighters usually have a base in a particular style, they have learned techniques that are not competition legal and just don't use them in competition.but bro mma can't gouge eyes and kick groin...how can they win against KM?
There are plenty of things I know from wrestling that I cannot use in a BJJ tournament, and things I know from BJJ that I can't use in a freestyle or greco tournament.
02-05-2019, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
because this is the misc, and most posters are simply unwise.Why are the majority of arguments an appeal to strength via ad hominem?
Why do the majority of arguments rely on outliers and/or events that are not common place?
Why is everybody so worked up that people have differing opinions about what arts are more useful?
How many people arguingactuallytrain?
How much of the opinion that you have is based on a bias toward your preferred art?
And finally
E
Why do the majority of arguments rely on outliers and/or events that are not common place?
Why is everybody so worked up that people have differing opinions about what arts are more useful?
How many people arguingactuallytrain?
How much of the opinion that you have is based on a bias toward your preferred art?
And finally
E
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02-05-2019, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Fuk youbecause this is the misc, and most posters are simply unwise.
Not srs. Just wish you weren't right.
02-05-2019, 07:58 AM
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Sambo
Khabib Nurmagomedov has dominated the UFC with the style because nowhere else practises it except Russia. Fedor also utilised it as well.
Khabib Nurmagomedov has dominated the UFC with the style because nowhere else practises it except Russia. Fedor also utilised it as well.
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02-05-2019, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
I can't comment on other people, but I'm not as emotionally invested in these debates as some people may think.Fuk you
Not srs. Just wish you weren't right.
Not srs. Just wish you weren't right.
It's just entertaining to me.
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02-05-2019, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Max1mu5⏩
I wouldn't put it down to just Sambo.Sambo
Khabib Nurmagomedov has dominated the UFC with the style because nowhere else practises it except Russia. Fedor also utilised it as well.
Khabib Nurmagomedov has dominated the UFC with the style because nowhere else practises it except Russia. Fedor also utilised it as well.
Plently of Sambo trained fighters have entered MMA, and have not been as dominant as Khabib and Fedor.
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02-05-2019, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Max1mu5⏩
but following that logic, Fedor lost three times in a row using sambo/judo. So sambo must be beatable despite it only being trained really in one part of the world.Sambo
Khabib Nurmagomedov has dominated the UFC with the style because nowhere else practises it except Russia. Fedor also utilised it as well.
Khabib Nurmagomedov has dominated the UFC with the style because nowhere else practises it except Russia. Fedor also utilised it as well.
02-05-2019, 10:53 AM
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02-05-2019, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
No rules street fights throw everything out the window. UFC 'tried' the no rules thing for a bit, but it was too violent.but bro mma can't gouge eyes and kick groin...how can they win against KM?
from 0:06 on, he pulls the dirtydon
02-05-2019, 10:59 AM
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Boxing or Muay Thai makes the most sense. You can deal with your 'opponent' before it ends up going to the ground. And trying something like BBJ on the street could go horrible wrong, i.e: you do a fancy take down and then try to submit him... and then his friend(s) comes along and boots you in the head.
02-05-2019, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Train_Harder⏩
Without a doubt the most hilarious moment in UFC history.No rules street fights throw everything out the window. UFC 'tried' the no rules thing for a bit, but it was too violent.
from 0:06 on, he pulls the dirtydon
from 0:06 on, he pulls the dirtydon
An interesting note, the asian dude in the red briefs getting his dick knocked off(Joe son) is now serving a life sentence for rape and murder. It adds a layer of satisfaction to the clip knowing its a rapist getting punched in the dick.
02-05-2019, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Tamorlane⏩
Lets be real, he only started to loose as he declined due to age.but following that logic, Fedor lost three times in a row using sambo/judo. So sambo must be beatable despite it only being trained really in one part of the world.
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02-05-2019, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
The practices and conditioning prepare them more than anything. You'll hear collegiate and olympic level wrestlers say MMA training is easier than their wrestling practices. I wrestled 4 years in hs. **** was pretty brutal. Only sport I know of in hs where guys actually turned downed scholarships.Wrestling
I honestly theorised that wrestlers would/should dominate MMA
And now they are, feel when you make a right prediction
I honestly theorised that wrestlers would/should dominate MMA
And now they are, feel when you make a right prediction
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02-06-2019, 12:42 AM
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Muay Thai/dutch kickboxing or boxing. Nothing else compares. Yeah BJJ and wrestling might be better if you cross train with another striking art, but if you come to a fight against a striker with just grappling or wrestling as your sole skillset, you're fuked. The moment you eat the first punch/kick youre gonna rethink your decision.
Also LOL at even bringing up TKD and Krav Maga in the same conversation, they're both play fighting.
Also LOL at even bringing up TKD and Krav Maga in the same conversation, they're both play fighting.
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02-06-2019, 01:33 AM
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02-06-2019, 01:38 AM
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02-06-2019, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
LOL, not everyone has a weak jaw, and not every striker has KO power at their will.Muay Thai/dutch kickboxing or boxing. Nothing else compares. Yeah BJJ and wrestling might be better if you cross train with another striking art, but if you come to a fight against a striker with just grappling or wrestling as your sole skillset, you're fuked. The moment you eat the first punch/kick youre gonna rethink your decision.
Also LOL at even bringing up TKD and Krav Maga in the same conversation, they're both play fighting.
Also LOL at even bringing up TKD and Krav Maga in the same conversation, they're both play fighting.
You're 20 years too late on this theory. The evolution of the UFC/MMA proved that pure wrestlers will beat pure boxers in a full contact fight most of the time. There may be a fluke knockout here and there by a striker, but most of the time the wrestler can eat a shot going in and/or the striker doesn't hit hard enough for a one punch KO, then he gets slammed on the ground. It's worse on the street, as getting slammed on concrete is a helluva lot more destructive than getting slammed on a mat.
Do you really think Floyd Mayweather, the arguably greatest boxer for his weight of all time, could beat an Olympic wrestling champion of his own weight in a full contact fight? Seriously?
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