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08-22-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Agent456⏩
I'm skeptical when somebody says "I do boxing". Within the sport of boxing its universal that people say "I box". I've been around boxing for many years never heard a serious boxer say "I do boxing".I'm an athlete, I do boxing
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08-22-2019, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By KirkMcquest⏩
Lmao. He probably went to his local 24 hr fitness and had some “lessons” and now says he “does boxing”.I'm skeptical when somebody says "I do boxing". Within the sport of boxing its universal that people say "I box". I've been around boxing for many years never heard a serious boxer say "I do boxing".
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Originally Posted By FredWreck619⏩
It's a competition that requires athletic activity.It’s not a sport. It’s a pageant involving muscles.
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Originally Posted By frump94⏩
I consider the BB women's fitness division highly skilled and talented athletes (gymnasts and dancers).Definition of an athlete;
'a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.'
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Last time I checked, bodybuilding required none of these with the exception of getting stronger to gain more size, but again, you're not judged on your strength, you're judged on your appearance on stage.
Brb, having elite genetics, copious amounts of skittles on hand, and the time to lift weights and shove down copious amounts of food all day then subsequently starving yourself makes someone an athlete. Doesn't matter if you can't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded.
'a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.'
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Last time I checked, bodybuilding required none of these with the exception of getting stronger to gain more size, but again, you're not judged on your strength, you're judged on your appearance on stage.
Brb, having elite genetics, copious amounts of skittles on hand, and the time to lift weights and shove down copious amounts of food all day then subsequently starving yourself makes someone an athlete. Doesn't matter if you can't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded.
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08-22-2019, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By BrennanMWhite⏩
The non-lifting group showed an increase in LBM. That's due to increased water and glycogen retention, not muscle gain.Nah, like there are literally studies showing ppl on cell tech grow more when doing nothing that non-cell tech users who train.http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...0101#t=article
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Originally Posted By thehardg00dbye⏩
The training leading up to the competition does, but the actual competition itself, does not.It's a competition that requires athletic activity.
So it’s not a sport. It’s a pageant.
08-22-2019, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By LuckyAH⏩
It's likely not all water retention, but I'm sure a lot of it is.The non-lifting group showed an increase in LBM. That's due to increased water and glycogen retention, not muscle gain.
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08-22-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
One posts all the time, it should be really clear what one is.I don't even know what an athlete is anymore

08-23-2019, 02:39 AM
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Jason Blaha trains athletes
08-23-2019, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted By peacefullboyo⏩
Cool. Still don’t count.Jason Blaha trains athletes
08-23-2019, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted By 7Friday7⏩
Doesn't make them athletes. Same can be said for pro ballet dancers.Bodybuilders are some of the hardest working, most dedicated, most disciplined people I've ever met.
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08-23-2019, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Baseball players are athletes.It’s almost as bad as when baseball players are called athletes. So embarrassing
Bad joke bruh.
08-23-2019, 02:42 PM
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Also lol at referring to working out as "training". Unless you're practicing for an actual sport, you're not training chit.
08-23-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By FredWreck619⏩
hahaha no, I have boxed for a while now. have a spar with me and you'll see if I had "some lessons" phggt.Lmao. He probably went to his local 24 hr fitness and had some “lessons” and now says he “does boxing”.
08-23-2019, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By thehardg00dbye⏩
This line of thinking implies that becoming a world class bodybuilder requires world class athletic ability as opposed to a world class ability to absorb drugs without dying which is a pre-requisite for competing in the Mr Olympia. It takes the latter, not the former.It's a competition that requires athletic activity.
If these people genuinely had world class athletic ability, they'd be competing in actual sports for baller money instead of (unless they're like the top 7 best in the world) sucking dick for drug money in order to compete. Or selling drugs for drug money.
BRB world class athletic ability and you class yourself as an athlete and not a pageant entrant
BRB don't use it to compete in a sport that pays millions even though you're athlete
BRB instead pay tens of thousands of dollars a year out of your own pocket to come 9th in the Ogdenville Pro and 8th in the North Haverbrook Pro
Look, pro bodybuilders are admirable in as much as it takes immense dedication, sacrifice, focus and guts to do it. But let's not pretend that even the gym work needed to get there takes athletic ability or that the competitors are athletes. It's a niche beauty pageant where you win or lose based on literally nothing except appearance and occasionally politics. It's not a weight lifting competition. It's closer to sculpting.
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Originally Posted By Potatolifter⏩
a b s o l u t eOne posts all the time, it should be really clear what one is.


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Originally Posted By thehardg00dbye⏩
In what world is standing on a stage naked posing an athletic activity?It's a competition that requires athletic activity.
By God, he just flexed his muscles for 5 whole minutes, the athleticism!
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
This line of thinking implies that becoming a world class bodybuilder requires world class athletic ability as opposed to a world class ability to absorb drugs without dying which is a pre-requisite for competing in the Mr Olympia. It takes the latter, not the former.
If these people genuinely had world class athletic ability, they'd be competing in actual sports for baller money instead of (unless they're like the top 7 best in the world) sucking dick for drug money in order to compete. Or selling drugs for drug money.
BRB world class athletic ability and you class yourself as an athlete and not a pageant entrant
BRB don't use it to compete in a sport that pays millions even though you're athlete
BRB instead pay tens of thousands of dollars a year out of your own pocket to come 9th in the Ogdenville Pro and 8th in the North Haverbrook Pro
Look, pro bodybuilders are admirable in as much as it takes immense dedication, sacrifice, focus and guts to do it. But let's not pretend that even the gym work needed to get there takes athletic ability or that the competitors are athletes. It's a niche beauty pageant where you win or lose based on literally nothing except appearance and occasionally politics. It's not a weight lifting competition. It's closer to sculpting.
If these people genuinely had world class athletic ability, they'd be competing in actual sports for baller money instead of (unless they're like the top 7 best in the world) sucking dick for drug money in order to compete. Or selling drugs for drug money.
BRB world class athletic ability and you class yourself as an athlete and not a pageant entrant
BRB don't use it to compete in a sport that pays millions even though you're athlete
BRB instead pay tens of thousands of dollars a year out of your own pocket to come 9th in the Ogdenville Pro and 8th in the North Haverbrook Pro
Look, pro bodybuilders are admirable in as much as it takes immense dedication, sacrifice, focus and guts to do it. But let's not pretend that even the gym work needed to get there takes athletic ability or that the competitors are athletes. It's a niche beauty pageant where you win or lose based on literally nothing except appearance and occasionally politics. It's not a weight lifting competition. It's closer to sculpting.

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Originally Posted By JPeeper⏩
There are competitors in the Mr O who can't even do that since they lose control of their gut when they transition from one pose to the next. Talking top 5 guys here.In what world is standing on a stage naked posing an athletic activity?
By God, he just flexed his muscles for 5 whole minutes, the athleticism!
By God, he just flexed his muscles for 5 whole minutes, the athleticism!
As it happens, though, I don't think he was referring to the event itself but rather the gym work it takes to look like they do. Though when you look at the gym work they do, it does not take any more actual athletic ability than what most people possess. It's just that most people don't have the inclination, the time or the drugs for recovery to do it as constantly as they do. Or the drive to be fair. They also then don't have the inclination to eat all the food required, take all the other drugs needed to assist in growth or have the aesthetic muscle insertions or reactions to drugs which makes their muscles LOOK a certain way.
Most people don't consider the trade off of becoming a walking pharmaceutical experiment (and paying top-dollar for it) with the associated health consequences versus the relatively meager pay offs to be worth it. Many do though. Among these people, it's a race to see who can take the most drugs and then seeing who reacts the best to it...not even in terms of who becomes better at lifting weights or cardio, but in terms of muscles becoming more aesthetic in their appearance.
But, no, they're right. They're totally in the same category as Roger Federer, The Williams sisters, Usain Bolt and LeBron James.
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Originally Posted By NorthernLad93⏩
Dude... Without trolling, pro ballet dancers do have a lot of athleticism.Doesn't make them athletes. Same can be said for pro ballet dancers.
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Originally Posted By FredWreck619⏩
Posing the right way is way more difficult than you think. Some pros need oxygen when they get off stage. If you had a significant amount of muscle mass you might understand that it is difficult to flex full out for 5 minutes straight.The training leading up to the competition does, but the actual competition itself, does not.
So it’s not a sport. It’s a pageant.
So it’s not a sport. It’s a pageant.
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I used to laugh at calling bodybuilders athletes too, but then you realize they really do excel at physical activity, it's just that they don't compete based on it, they compete based off their looks.
But clearly any bodybuilder would out lift an average joe. But chest workouts aren't a sport or competition so we don't make the connection.
But clearly any bodybuilder would out lift an average joe. But chest workouts aren't a sport or competition so we don't make the connection.
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Originally Posted By swolegma⏩
I agree. I believe the ballet requires more athletic ability than golfSo is ballet.
What's the consensus on powerlifting? Is it a sport? Are powerlifters atheletes? I think this would tie in somehow seeing as the two are linked through activity.
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Originally Posted By thehardg00dbye⏩
And yet it's not a sport.I agree. I believe the ballet requires more athletic ability than golf
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Originally Posted By thehardg00dbye⏩
Let's face it, with the state these people are in by the time they get on stage, they'd need oxygen after a game of bowling.Posing the right way is way more difficult than you think. Some pros need oxygen when they get off stage. If you had a significant amount of muscle mass you might understand that it is difficult to flex full out for 5 minutes straight.
Originally Posted By thehardg00dbye⏩
Yes, people competing against each other at a designated time and place to see who can perform the best in a physical activity where the winner is the one who uses their strength, explosive ability, focus in the moment, coordination and technique to lift the most is a sport. You win based on performing better than your competitors on the day.What's the consensus on powerlifting? Is it a sport? Are powerlifters atheletes? I think this would tie in somehow seeing as the two are linked through activity.
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
I agree with this. I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I've always honestly wondered ever since Arnold's retirement speech in pumping iron where he said "it's the greatest sport" .Let's face it, with the state these people are in by the time they get on stage, they'd need oxygen after a game of bowling.
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