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11-11-2019, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
no wealth problems in my houseRight so you're one of those people who just doesn't think very hard about the world or the problems that may be emerging in it, and prefers to stay incognisant of it.
That's fine for you, but the reality is there are very serious problems with the way wealth and power is becoming distributed in society, and this is affecting a lot of regular people. And finding solutions to it will be very important going forward.
That's fine for you, but the reality is there are very serious problems with the way wealth and power is becoming distributed in society, and this is affecting a lot of regular people. And finding solutions to it will be very important going forward.
You have every opportunity to make it yourself
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11-11-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Good for you, plenty of wealth problems elsewhere. You mind your life and let us do the thinking.no wealth problems in my house
You have every opportunity to make it yourself
Socialism isn’t the answer
You have every opportunity to make it yourself
Socialism isn’t the answer
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11-11-2019, 09:46 AM
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Yea because socialism works WAY better. Just ask to soviet union.
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11-11-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Jms89⏩
just ask the banks that got bailed out the last time with our money if that's isn't socialism what is that being said I want my money back.Yea because socialism works WAY better. Just ask to soviet union.
11-11-2019, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Frank
Interesting, once again, maybe you have this delusion that you need a huge house, so you make excuses once again why you can't afford one.The biggest difference is housing prices. I was able to buy my first house for 1.25X my gross salary. Graduates today are going to pay 3X their salary and up.
I've lived through it. I had it easier coming out of school than the kids today. I also had it better than the kids from the 90's so....maybe I just got lucky.
X generation is best generation.
I've lived through it. I had it easier coming out of school than the kids today. I also had it better than the kids from the 90's so....maybe I just got lucky.
X generation is best generation.
Also, nobody is entitled to a house.
11-11-2019, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
What's your definition of a regular person?Right so you're one of those people who just doesn't think very hard about the world or the problems that may be emerging in it, and prefers to stay incognisant of it.
That's fine for you, but the reality is there are very serious problems with the way wealth and power is becoming distributed in society, and this is affecting a lot of regular people. And finding solutions to it will be very important going forward.
That's fine for you, but the reality is there are very serious problems with the way wealth and power is becoming distributed in society, and this is affecting a lot of regular people. And finding solutions to it will be very important going forward.
11-11-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By MrMummyou⏩
Bill Gates has a net worth of 107 billion dollars. What should be done about that?Why the hell do they need so much money for,
eventually all of them will become a dust in the ground,so what's the point?
eventually all of them will become a dust in the ground,so what's the point?
11-11-2019, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Sorry that some of us from the R/P section were curious about what you miscers were bitching and moaning about this day.....And what were your monthly payments?
Because there is no way you were able to secure a mortgage locked in at sub-4% for 30 years...
Edit : I thought we had these guys contained in their bubble called R&P, perhaps this thread should be moved?
Because there is no way you were able to secure a mortgage locked in at sub-4% for 30 years...
Edit : I thought we had these guys contained in their bubble called R&P, perhaps this thread should be moved?
11-11-2019, 09:58 AM
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11-11-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
The millenial mindset, it's always someone else's fault.....No I think a majority of people don't believe in taxing more. Something's gotta give, there's more and more angry people as time goes on and it's not a baby boomer vs. millennial thing.
A majority of the problems would be solved if kids were taught about predatory colleges and finances.
A majority of the problems would be solved if kids were taught about predatory colleges and finances.
11-11-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
lol. bro you're missing the point. I own my own home, and I don't have a mortgage.Interesting, once again, maybe you have this delusion that you need a huge house, so you make excuses once again why you can't afford one.
Also, nobody is entitled to a house.
Also, nobody is entitled to a house.
11-11-2019, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
Hmmmmmmmmm.....8 pages later, and the miscers complain about how it should be moved to the R/P section? I wonder why?Why is this not in R&P?
11-11-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Frank
Okay, then what are you bitching about?lol. bro you're missing the point. I own my own home, and I don't have a mortgage.
11-11-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Because mods are being selective with their assessment of what is moved to R&P and what isn't if it favors their ideologies. They are online as this threadhttps://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=177728221was just locked, but this thread somehow isn't?Hmmmmmmmmm.....8 pages later, and the miscers complain about how it should be moved to the R/P section? I wonder why?
Misc doesn't need to be polluted with leftists propaganda. That is what R&P is for.
11-11-2019, 10:07 AM
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No such thing as capitalism anymore.
Its just a subtle mix of socialism + cronyism.
Its just a subtle mix of socialism + cronyism.
11-11-2019, 10:09 AM
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It never ceases to make me lol at cucks who tirelessly defend capitalism... Brb I saved and invested look at me now, I have a 30 year mortgage and make 120k/year
Yeah congrats you made it to the bottom of the middle class and all your chit is unsecure due to the likelihood of economic collapse every 7-10 years and soaring inflation as the fed is bailing out markets left and right due to Dodd-Frank. Brb but but my dad always said a penny saved is a penny earned brb my td Ameritrade is yielding 7% annually
Just fukking lmao
Yeah congrats you made it to the bottom of the middle class and all your chit is unsecure due to the likelihood of economic collapse every 7-10 years and soaring inflation as the fed is bailing out markets left and right due to Dodd-Frank. Brb but but my dad always said a penny saved is a penny earned brb my td Ameritrade is yielding 7% annually
Just fukking lmao
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11-11-2019, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
STOP SUBSIDISING THE WORKERS WAGES OF VERY PROFITABLE COMPANIES WITH TAX DOLLARS.Let's hear your bright idea?
IMO this is the biggest difference in the last 20 years. The Amazons of this world own the political process. They can keep wages extremely low directly because they know the government will step in and subsidise their blue collar workers and families ie child tax credits, housing allowances, tax credits etc.
There is a major depot in Bedfordshire about 40 miles from London. It’s an expensive area to live. Their average worker earns about 25k gbp. Absolutely no way could you live in that area on that salary without the government stepping in.
They should be made to move up the m1 to somewhere a lot cheaper, say Birmingham, where you could live on that 25k. If you want to stay in Milton Keynes, fine, If you don’t pay a living wage for the area good luck getting anyone to travel 50 miles so they can work for you.
‘But muh capitalism’.. nah, it’s nothing like.
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11-11-2019, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
Leftist propaganda? Majority of the people bitching in this thread are the miscers themselves.Because mods are being selective with their assessment of what is moved to R&P and what isn't if it favors their ideologies. They are online as this threadhttps://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=177728221was just locked, but this thread somehow isn't?
Misc doesn't need to be polluted with leftists propaganda. That is what R&P is for.
Misc doesn't need to be polluted with leftists propaganda. That is what R&P is for.
11-11-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Peacening⏩
So you would replace capitalism with......It never ceases to make me lol at cucks who tirelessly defend capitalism... Brb I saved and invested look at me now, I have a 30 year mortgage and make 120k/year
Yeah congrats you made it to the bottom of the middle class and all your chit is unsecure due to the likelihood of economic collapse every 7-10 years and soaring inflation as the fed is bailing out markets left and right due to Dodd-Frank. Brb but but my dad always said a penny saved is a penny earned brb my td Ameritrade is yielding 7% annually
Just fukking lmao
Yeah congrats you made it to the bottom of the middle class and all your chit is unsecure due to the likelihood of economic collapse every 7-10 years and soaring inflation as the fed is bailing out markets left and right due to Dodd-Frank. Brb but but my dad always said a penny saved is a penny earned brb my td Ameritrade is yielding 7% annually
Just fukking lmao
11-11-2019, 10:15 AM
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1 Jeff Bezos $114 billion Amazon
2 Bill Gates $106 billion Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion ********
5 Larry Ellison $65 billion Oracle
6 Larry Page $55.5 billion Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 billion Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 billion Bloomberg L.P.
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 billion Microsoft, LA Clippers
10 Jim Walton $51.6 billion Walmart, inherited
How many of those are democrats? Fact of that matter is democrats are the party of the rich and they have fooled their base to vote for politicians to make them richer.
2 Bill Gates $106 billion Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion ********
5 Larry Ellison $65 billion Oracle
6 Larry Page $55.5 billion Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 billion Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 billion Bloomberg L.P.
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 billion Microsoft, LA Clippers
10 Jim Walton $51.6 billion Walmart, inherited
How many of those are democrats? Fact of that matter is democrats are the party of the rich and they have fooled their base to vote for politicians to make them richer.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Nobody is being forced to work at Amazon, and I'm sorry, but if you're at the bottom of that pyramid, you're easily replaceable.STOP SUBSIDISING THE WORKERS WAGES OF VERY PROFITABLE COMPANIES WITH TAX DOLLARS.
IMO this is the biggest difference in the last 20 years. The Amazons of this world own the political process. They can keep wages extremely low directly because they know the government will step in and subsidise their blue collar workers and families ie child tax credits, housing allowances, tax credits etc.
There is a major depot in Bedfordshire about 40 miles from London. It’s an expensive area to live. Their average worker earns about 25k gbp. Absolutely no way could you live in that area on that salary without the government stepping in.
They should be made to move up the m1 to somewhere a lot cheaper, say Birmingham, where you could live on that 25k. If you want to stay in Milton Keynes, fine, If you don’t pay a living wage for the area good luck getting anyone to travel 50 miles so they can work for you.
‘But muh capitalism’.. nah, it’s nothing like.
IMO this is the biggest difference in the last 20 years. The Amazons of this world own the political process. They can keep wages extremely low directly because they know the government will step in and subsidise their blue collar workers and families ie child tax credits, housing allowances, tax credits etc.
There is a major depot in Bedfordshire about 40 miles from London. It’s an expensive area to live. Their average worker earns about 25k gbp. Absolutely no way could you live in that area on that salary without the government stepping in.
They should be made to move up the m1 to somewhere a lot cheaper, say Birmingham, where you could live on that 25k. If you want to stay in Milton Keynes, fine, If you don’t pay a living wage for the area good luck getting anyone to travel 50 miles so they can work for you.
‘But muh capitalism’.. nah, it’s nothing like.
It's like the bagger of a grocery store demanding a "living wage," you're doing something a 15 year old with a work permit can do.
11-11-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
And if their wealth was confiscated, it would be spent in less than a year.1 Jeff Bezos $114 billion Amazon
2 Bill Gates $106 billion Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion ********
5 Larry Ellison $65 billion Oracle
6 Larry Page $55.5 billion Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 billion Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 billion Bloomberg L.P.
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 billion Microsoft, LA Clippers
10 Jim Walton $51.6 billion Walmart, inherited
How many of those are democrats? Fact of that matter is democrats are the party of the rich and they have fooled their base to vote for politicians to make them richer.
2 Bill Gates $106 billion Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion ********
5 Larry Ellison $65 billion Oracle
6 Larry Page $55.5 billion Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 billion Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 billion Bloomberg L.P.
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 billion Microsoft, LA Clippers
10 Jim Walton $51.6 billion Walmart, inherited
How many of those are democrats? Fact of that matter is democrats are the party of the rich and they have fooled their base to vote for politicians to make them richer.
Not to mention that all of their employees would be out of a job.
11-11-2019, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
That is not true.STOP SUBSIDISING THE WORKERS WAGES OF VERY PROFITABLE COMPANIES WITH TAX DOLLARS.
IMO this is the biggest difference in the last 20 years. The Amazons of this world own the political process. They can keep wages extremely low directly because they know the government will step in and subsidise their blue collar workers and families ie child tax credits, housing allowances, tax credits etc.
IMO this is the biggest difference in the last 20 years. The Amazons of this world own the political process. They can keep wages extremely low directly because they know the government will step in and subsidise their blue collar workers and families ie child tax credits, housing allowances, tax credits etc.
Sweatshops happen in 3rd world countries, that don't have welfare states. By your reasoning, sweatshops shouldn't exist in those places.
"Crammed into squalid factories to produce clothes for the West on just 20p a day, the children forced to work in horrific unregulated workshops of Bangladesh "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...angladesh.html
All anyone has to do is look into sweatshops in countries without a welfare system, to show that pro-free market capitalist argument is nonsense.
Without employee rights, building and fire codes, corporations will try to get away with paying and treating workers like crap. We've see that for decades, in various countries around the world, from some of the biggest multinational corporations on the planet (e.g. Nike).
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11-11-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Their personal wealth =/= the corporation's wealth.Not to mention that all of their employees would be out of a job.
The corporation is a separate legal entity.
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11-11-2019, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You’re not easily replaceable if you can’t afford to live by or travel to a place paying very low wages. You’ve missed the point.Nobody is being forced to work at Amazon, and I'm sorry, but if you're at the bottom of that pyramid, you're easily replaceable.
It's like the bagger of a grocery store demanding a "living wage," you're doing something a 15 year old with a work permit can do.
It's like the bagger of a grocery store demanding a "living wage," you're doing something a 15 year old with a work permit can do.
Why on earth would you be in favour or YOUR tax dollars going to a massively wealthy company by subsidising the workers wages? Seriously?
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
All you're proving is that hyper intelligent people tend to vote democrat1 Jeff Bezos $114 billion Amazon
2 Bill Gates $106 billion Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion ********
5 Larry Ellison $65 billion Oracle
6 Larry Page $55.5 billion Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 billion Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 billion Bloomberg L.P.
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 billion Microsoft, LA Clippers
10 Jim Walton $51.6 billion Walmart, inherited
How many of those are democrats? Fact of that matter is democrats are the party of the rich and they have fooled their base to vote for politicians to make them richer.
2 Bill Gates $106 billion Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion Berkshire Hathaway
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion ********
5 Larry Ellison $65 billion Oracle
6 Larry Page $55.5 billion Google
7 Sergey Brin $53.5 billion Google
8 Michael Bloomberg $53.4 billion Bloomberg L.P.
9 Steve Ballmer $51.7 billion Microsoft, LA Clippers
10 Jim Walton $51.6 billion Walmart, inherited
How many of those are democrats? Fact of that matter is democrats are the party of the rich and they have fooled their base to vote for politicians to make them richer.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
No, they have sweatshops because of zero regulation, massive uneducated overpopulation, no expensive areas to live.. it’s not even remotely comparable come on..That is not true.
Sweatshops happen in 3rd world countries, that don't have welfare states. By your reasoning, sweatshops shouldn't exist in those places.
"Crammed into squalid factories to produce clothes for the West on just 20p a day, the children forced to work in horrific unregulated workshops of Bangladesh "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...angladesh.html
All anyone has to do is look into sweatshops in countries without a welfare system, to show that pro-free market capitalist argument is nonsense.
Without employee rights, building and fire codes, corporations will try to get away with paying and treating workers like crap. We've see that for decades, in various countries around the world, from some of the biggest multinational corporations on the planet (e.g. Nike).
Sweatshops happen in 3rd world countries, that don't have welfare states. By your reasoning, sweatshops shouldn't exist in those places.
"Crammed into squalid factories to produce clothes for the West on just 20p a day, the children forced to work in horrific unregulated workshops of Bangladesh "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...angladesh.html
All anyone has to do is look into sweatshops in countries without a welfare system, to show that pro-free market capitalist argument is nonsense.
Without employee rights, building and fire codes, corporations will try to get away with paying and treating workers like crap. We've see that for decades, in various countries around the world, from some of the biggest multinational corporations on the planet (e.g. Nike).
The clue is in the word ‘forced’..
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Originally Posted By Brainfr33ze⏩
Yeah, happens all the timelol at thinking you own it.
government can take that away real quick.
government can take that away real quick.
11-11-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I'm not bitching lmao. Take the time to read posts that you're responding to?Okay, then what are you bitching about?
The biggest financial challenge young people have these days is inflated housing prices. It was not like that 20-30 years ago.
11-11-2019, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
Just as long as you recognize the democrats are the party of the rich and don't have the best interest of the working class. What they say they are for and what the do in practice are two separate things.All you're proving is that hyper intelligent people tend to vote democrat
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