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Thread: HOLY CHIT that UPS truck chase

post 1592988281 12-06-2019, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted By TurbanMon⏩
what type of training do cops in florida get lmao
When they complete all the missions on GTA 5 they get badge.

There was no regard for anyones safety. They could have let them keep driving and have avoided this situation 2 innocent people killed. What a mess.
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post 1592988571 12-06-2019, 12:32 AM
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FL cops be like:
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post 1592993311 12-06-2019, 03:41 AM
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Can confirm, the vast number of police officers down have little man syndrome, didn’t do well in high school so a badge is vindicating. It’s absurd.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Engine block of cars with multiple pedestrians in it, no? What about the 3 on the end of the car? Where is the engine block there?

What about the bad guys? There will be bad guys every day. It's literally the police's pejorative to protect the citizens and enforce the law, no? The bad guys died, just as they would have in a shoot out on foot on a side street, or apartment harboring felons.
No it isnt

Cops have no duty to protect you or anyone else. Its your job and your job only to preserve your life

Cops only job is to arrest/stop criminals

Supreme court ruled on that long ago

The suspects shooting at the cops caused this, not the cops

Just stop
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the ONLY thing i can think of is that maybe the suspect went to shoot the UPS brah or actually did and then they unloaded.

or I guess if the suspect started shooting outside of the truck then the cops might have had no choice. I honestly dont know the correct move in that scenario when everyone else in the vicinity is in danger

but IF the suspect didnt fire outside of the truck or at the hostage then that was totally unwarranted
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The last 3 police videos posted on misc have all looked really bad.

I mean.... The perps WERE shooting from the UPS truck..... But using civillian traffic for cover seems like it's probably not protocol....
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
The last 3 police videos posted on misc have all looked really bad.

I mean.... The perps WERE shooting from the UPS truck..... But using civillian traffic for cover seems like it's probably not protocol....
So what would you do?
post 1592994961 12-06-2019, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
I was thinking, this is some hollywood sht where you have people just firing away through doors, or walls, then checking the other side to see if anyone was left alive. That's exactly what it looked like.

I don't even know how this one is going to get approached. It's not a situation where you have one dumb cop who decided to shoot first, ask questions later. Half the department unloaded on the truck. How do you even handle that? The town would be unpoliced if everyone who fired was suspended. I'm still trying to process this one too. How can so many officers make such a terrible decision at the same time. I just can't wrap my head around it.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
So what would you do?
Is it possible not to confront guys like that while they have a hostage? Just trail them from a distance?
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post 1592995711 12-06-2019, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
Is it possible not to confront guys like that while they have a hostage? Just trail them from a distance?
And then what? Let them drive forever?
post 1592995841 12-06-2019, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
And then what? Let them drive forever?
theyll have to stop and some point, otherwise stop them in a place other than a highway full of people.
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post 1592996131 12-06-2019, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
theyll have to stop and some point, otherwise stop them in a place other than a highway full of people.
It was stuck in traffic chief, the cops didnt tell them to drive into rush hour traffic, the suspects did that on their own. Again what were the cops supposed to do?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
It was stuck in traffic chief, the cops didnt tell them to drive into rush hour traffic, the suspects did that on their own. Again what were the cops supposed to do?
perhaps hang back to not start a firefight in a crowded area. then hopefully stop them at some later point when there is less people around.
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Imagine sitting in traffic and a bunch of pigs run up and use you and your car as a shield

Fuk that noise
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
perhaps hang back to not start a firefight in a crowded area. then hopefully stop them at some later point when there is less people around.
So just let them carjack more people when their ups truck gets stuck? Maybe they seperate and carjack multiple people? Now you have multiple hostages in different vehicles.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
And then what? Let them drive forever?
Let me know when a ups van drives forever
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
So just let them carjack more people when their ups truck gets stuck? Maybe they seperate and carjack multiple people? Now you have multiple hostages in different vehicles.
certainly that is possible although it's tough to imagine an outcome worse than what happened
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
certainly that is possible although it's tough to imagine an outcome worse than what happened
The point is there is no perfect scenario. You monday morning quarterbacks have never been in a life or death situation. It was tragic but due to the suspects actions it was unavoidable. The suspects caused this, not the cops
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
Let me know when a ups van drives forever
So you think when the truck dies they wont think to carjack someone else? They just say fuk it and give up?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
The point is there is no perfect scenario. You monday morning quarterbacks have never been in a life or death situation. It was tragic but due to the suspects actions it was unavoidable. The suspects caused this, not the cops
I'm afraid that not good enough. I suppose there will be an investigation which will hopefully be unbiased.
I think if the suspects were not shooting at police then UPS guy should not have been turned into swiss cheese. The fact that criminals exist does not give law enforcement a green light to shoot civilians.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
So you think when the truck dies they wont think to carjack someone else? They just say fuk it and give up?
Better to have them carjack people than the police shoot and killing hostages and bystanders

At least with hostages you have an attempt of keeping them alive unless of course the police kill them first
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
I'm afraid that not good enough. I suppose there will be an investigation which will hopefully be unbiased.
I think if the suspects were not shooting at police then UPS guy should not have been turned into swiss cheese. The fact that criminals exist does not give law enforcement a green light to shoot civilians.
So again what would be your tactics?
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
Better to have them carjack people than the police shoot and killing hostages and bystanders

At least with hostages you have an attempt of keeping them alive unless of course the police kill them first
So they execute the UPS driver then take another hostage so the cops should just let them keep executing people as they run out of gas? Should the cops just evacuate the whole town until the suspects run out of food and give up? Its not like the movies chief. People like you with no real world experience shouldnt comment
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Originally Posted By doughnutking⏩
i really don't see the issue.

If I was a a pursuing cop and got the chance then I'd pull out my AK and fill the UPS van with lead, although id aim at the criminal not the driver and if the driver escaped then id just shoot the fuel tank and take out the whole van and the criminal with it.

Which is what I guess they tried to do.

If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times, cops should all have an ak47 in the pursuit vehicle, no crim is going to escape when you are lighting him up with an AK.

No need for 50 cops with 9mm's when the pursuit vehicles are letting rip with 60 mag AK's.
Completely ridiculous

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
So again what would be your tactics?
Like I said before, let them get out of the crowded area and then engage. If they shoot the hostage or another driver anyone then light em up
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-theyre stuck in traffic. They didn't get out to carjack. If they did, eliminate then but that's not at all what happened, is it?

-You could, in fact, let them sit there without YOU killing anyone. Entirely possible.

If INNOCENT BYSTANDERS are your only cover on approach due to YOUR escalation, then maybe not engage?


This chit is pretty fukking easy to see mate.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
-theyre stuck in traffic. They didn't get out to carjack. If they did, eliminate then but that's not at all what happened, is it?

-You could, in fact, let them sit there without YOU killing anyone. Entirely possible.

This chit is pretty fukking easy to see mate.
They were shooting at the cops... Do you guys have no common sense?
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
Like I said before, let them get out of the crowded area and then engage. If they shoot the hostage or another driver anyone then light em up
What part of they were stuck in traffic shooting at the cops is hard for you to grasp?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
They were shooting at the cops... Do you guys have no common sense?
Then fuk off! OH THEY WERE SHOOTING AT US BETTER KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!

Have you not heard what happens when you corner a rat?

I 100% doubt you would do this.
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