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post 1596075431 01-21-2020, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
What the fuk do daily variations have to do with your claim you can double your test in a month? Unless you're some outright ******* that would measure at 9am and 9pm to prove his point, I'd assume you were measuring the same day of day for your nonsensical claim.

You're starting to run around in circles and sound like more of a fuking idiot than when you started.
I think he’s saying, If test has such a wide margin throughout the day naturally, is it so ridiculous to say that altering certain stressors in lifestyle could significantly alter/augment TT as well.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Never said every person could, i was talking about the specific scenario in which a young male goes trough a hard 6 month+ cut based on a significative calorie deficit and heavy training/cardio everyday, testing his testosterone levels at the very end and then retaking it a month after a high calorie surplus, a lot of rest, etc.

Basically a natural bodybuilder on his competition day vs one month after competition. If you think his test levels wouldnt greatly improve you are kidding yourself.


I never said any person with low test could double their testosterone with more sleep without caring about whats causing their low test. That was just your assumption.
Lol and now your example changes from you, who is "someone who works out 6 days a week and goes to work" to "a natural body builder on his competition day vs one month after."

Lol gtfo *******. How much more do you want to change your original scenario to fit your dumbass claim?
Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
I think he’s saying, If test has such a wide margin throughout the day naturally, is it so ridiculous to say that altering certain stressors in lifestyle could significantly alter/augment TT as well.
Very feasible. People do it all the time. Not to the extremely retarded degree he thinks.
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Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
I think he’s saying, If test has such a wide margin throughout the day naturally, is it so ridiculous to say that altering certain stressors in lifestyle could significantly alter/augment TT as well.
Maybe i should have explained myself on spanish? Would that have helped those two guys understand? lol


anyway, its pretty simple. As you say, testosterone levels massively fluctuate depending on literally hundreds of different reasons. Most natural bodybuilders on their competition day are closer to killing themselves than they are to being happy, just severely fatigued, their bodies have shut off many activities in order to optimize the little ammount of energy it has, the primary goal becomes survival.

After cutting, metabolisms slows down, libido goes down, general energy goes down because the body is focused on surviving and fueling its most basic needs.

Then one month after competition day, you see those guys breaking PRs and talking about fukin their girls 5x a day.


Conclussion: test ng/dl's can vary by hundreds EASILY in a month depending on several factors.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Lol and now your example changes from you, who is "someone who works out 6 days a week and goes to work" to "a natural body builder on his competition day vs one month after."

Lol gtfo *******. How much do you want to change your original scenario to fit your dumbass claim?
He didn’t claim he was a bodybuilder. Wasn’t even the point.
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Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
He didn’t claim he was a bodybuilder. Wasn’t even the point.
He is continuously changing his scenario to make his claim sound legitimate. If you can't see that...
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Lol and now your example changes from you, who is "someone who works out 6 days a week and goes to work" to "a natural body builder on his competition day vs one month after."

Lol gtfo *******. How much do you want to change your original scenario to fit your dumbass claim?
Jesuschrist, you are one of those guys that just wont take defeat lol.


Can you gain 400 ng/dls in a month without needing extra help? Yes or no? Thats what the discussion is about *******, answer that fukin question or dont ever come back to this thread you clueless clown.


To anybody else reading this: Of course you can. Lose 15% of your body weight after months of heavy daily exercise and a big calorie deficit and recheck your testosterone levels, or maybe just use your common sense lol.
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Aren't some people just supposed to be at certain test levels? Like, I know guys that are near 50 on TRT talking about having a teenage libido, but aren't you supposed to have a lower libido as you age? It kinda just seems like people are trying hard as fuk to fight aging and not so much fix a "problem".
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Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
He didn’t claim he was a bodybuilder. Wasn’t even the point.
you know what man, im starting to think we are being trolled lol.

At least i hope so, i refuse to believe someone is that stubborn
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
i bet lifting itself raises test in the short term but lowers it overall or some chit like that due to the fact that you're in a constant repair state
Nah, research shows that long term lifting raises your baseline test level.

I think OP needs to see an endocrinologist like Bozz said though.

I'm 35 and can only do light exercise due to injuries, and my most recent test check came back as 575.
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Jesuschrist, you are one of those guys that just wont take defeat lol.


Can you gain 400 ng/dls in a month without needing extra help? Yes or no?
EXTREMELY unlikely (NO) for the average person if you are measuring at the exact same time and not trying to manipulate everything like time of day measured and all this other bullsht you keep spouting. Negged you *******.
My test comes low too, around 400 but TBH im lifting 6x days a week plus work and **** and it makes it go low im guessing.

Id probably be around 800 if i took a full week of rest and eating above maintenance
This is your claim. The answer is no.
post 1596076231 01-21-2020, 04:49 PM
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The posts about overtraining lowering test are interesting, havent gotten my test checked but i havent taken more than a week off lifting for the past 6 or so years and generally feel pretty chitty.

Wonder if its correlated
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is it possibl to have high test if u work an offive job, stress dont lsepe well etc


no wonder why men are messed up these days

i reember when i was unemployed and i had a girlfriend at the time my test levels were probably over 9000

i was lifting, sleeping, eating well , relaxed, banging my gf

i could jerk off 10+ times day and get super hard eveyr time.

Now most of the time i'd rather just sleep or chill out then chase poosy
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You’re probably fat.

Eating right will bump it up 200 or so if that’s the case.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
EXTREMELY unlikely for the average personif you are measuring at the exact same time and not trying to manipulate everything like time of day measured and all this other bullsht you keep spouting. Negged you *******.
When did i ever brought up the average person? You go around throwing insults and negging people, yet you cant fukin even grasp a simple concept lol.

Im going to take your answer as a "yes, yes you can my master Ken-O" and also im going to take your neg as your way of saying "thank you for correcting my dumb ways master Ken", because im just going to assume that wherever dumbass place on earth you were raised in, thats how people there own up and admit their mistakes.

fukin lold. Not even gonna neg because your own testicles negged you first
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Originally Posted By ExistentialBrah⏩
The posts about overtraining lowering test are interesting, havent gotten my test checked but i havent taken more than a week off lifting for the past 6 or so years and generally feel pretty chitty.

Wonder if its correlated
A long time of being in a calorie deficit has a bigger impact IMO, doubt any of us trains hard enough for that alone to be the case.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
It did take a while to get stabilized. Don't think you just go in and then you are done.
How long did it take?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
When did i ever brought up the average person?
Are you serious? Do I need to copy your quote yet again? Jesus fuking christ you are a clown.
Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
My test comes low too, around 400 but TBH im lifting 6x days a week plus work and **** and it makes it go low im guessing.

Idprobably be around 800 if i took a full week of rest and eating above maintenance
One more time for good measure.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Are you serious? Do I need to copy your quote yet again? Jesus fuking christ you are a clown.



One more time for good measure.
"Im lifting 6x days a week plus work and ****"


So yeah, that pretty much involves my personal lifestyle, which includes sleeping up to 6 hours a night, 10 hour work days, IF, daily deficit of over 500k cals, etc. I was posting about my personal experience.

Had i known that some clueless ******* would come questioning everything and calling me out, i would have been more detailed on my original post, but it really doesnt matter since i explained to you my situation on the following posts but of course, you were just not having it.

Just leave already ******* srs. You are just digging yourself deeper, clinging at anything you can to pretend you werent just completely raped ITT.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Are you serious? Do I need to copy your quote yet again? Jesus fuking christ you are a clown.



One more time for good measure.
So you're implying he's average?
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Mine came at 381. 26 years old. The only effects i have are bad quality sleep and sleepy during day. All the other factors like libido, morning wood, erections, cum volume, etc are fine.
Not sure if its because of too hard calorie deficit and too much training frequency and volume, since my HOMA IR came at 0.5, will start to increase calories gradually now till a 300kcal surplus and do it for like 2 months and try it back. Lets see
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
"Im lifting 6x days a week plus work and ****"


So yeah, that pretty much involves my personal lifestyle, which includes sleeping up to 6 hours a night, 10 hour work days, IF, daily deficit of over 500k cals, etc. I was posting about my personal experience.

Had i known that some clueless ******* would come questioning everything and calling me out, i would have been more detailed on my original post, but it really doesnt matter since i explained to you my situation on the following posts but of course, you were just not having it.

Just leave already ******* srs. You are just digging yourself deeper, clinging at anything you can to pretend you werent just completely raped ITT.
Lol JFC acting like you're some little snowflake because you lift and went on a diet. Newsflash. You aren't doing anything remotely close to crashing your test enough you can double it in a month you dipsht. LMAO.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
"Im lifting 6x days a week plus work and ****"


So yeah, that pretty much involves my personal lifestyle, which includes sleeping up to 6 hours a night, 10 hour work days, IF, daily deficit of over 500k cals, etc. I was posting about my personal experience.

Had i known that some clueless ******* would come questioning everything and calling me out, i would have been more detailed on my original post, but it really doesnt matter since i explained to you my situation on the following posts but of course, you were just not having it.

Just leave already ******* srs. You are just digging yourself deeper, clinging at anything you can to pretend you werent just completely raped ITT.
Average guy apparently lifts 6 days a week bro. He gotcha there... /sarcasm
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Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
Average guy apparently lifts 6 days a week bro. He gotcha there... /sarcasm
Yeah lol, he is just digging himself deeper.


Whatever happened to “you know what, i was wrong” lol. Takes a man to admit that, for sure.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Lol JFC acting like you're some little snowflake. Newsflash. You aren't doing anything remotely close to crashing your test enough you can double it in a month you dipsht.
Right, so magically TT is unaffected by training/diet protocol in any significant way... and there is definitely no such thing as biofeedback rebound (or whatever you might call it)?

What studies are you referring to?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I may be in the monirity here but.....


Aren't some people just supposed to be at certain test levels? Like, I know guys that are near 50 on TRT talking about having a teenage libido, but aren't you supposed to have a lower libido as you age? It kinda just seems like people are trying hard as fuk to fight aging and not so much fix a "problem".
Let us know how you feel about this when you hit 50

All the bad chit associated with aging (lack of sleep, chit collagen production, long healing time, depressed immune system, cognitive deficit etc) are largely a side effect from declining IGF1
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Op how much do you weigh, what’s your diet like and how much do you sleep?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Yeah lol, he is just digging himself deeper.


Whatever happened to “you know what, i was wrong” lol. Takes a man to admit that, for sure.
Prove your claim. Get your bloodwork done and post it here. Post your incredibly low BF physique that would make me think your test is crashed. Do something other that spouting off bullsht that anyone with an IQ over 10 knows is false. 24,000 posts here and you don't know your azzhole from your elbow.

You. Are. Average.
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Average guy apparently lifts 6 days a week bro. He gotcha there... /sarcasm
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Right, so magically TT is unaffected by training/diet protocol in any significant way... and there is definitely no such thing as biofeedback rebound (or whatever you might call it)?

What studies are you referring to?
Lmao, I already agreed raising it is very possible and happens all the time. You seem to be missing the big picture too. He's not doubling his test in a week to a month. He's just another average joe. Fact. End of story. Quit suking his dick you *******.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Lmao, I already agreed raising it is very possible and happens all the time. You seem to be missing the big picture too. He's not doubling his test in a week to a month. He's just another average joe. Fact. End of story. Quit suking his dick you *******.
Oh, ok, i get it now. So you went from saying "no it cant be done", to "yes it cant be done, just not him!!". Gotcha. At least you admit it is possible, so i know i taught you something today.


just lol what a spineless little man
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I just looked at a test on MyChart from 2016 and my test was 208. I’m 34 now but still get morning wood and can bone the wife anytime she wants. Maybe I should get another test? I do kind of have low energy.
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Your test is low but I wouldn't be too worried about a one time blood draw. Dont freak out and make a rash decision to hop on TRT due to a low total testosterone number. Id go back and get another blood draw in a month or 2 and make sure you test your Free T, SHBG, sensitive estrogen, prolactin, LH, FSH, T3, T4, RT3, Lipids, and a CBC. Total test in isolation doesnt say much. Other than those numbers, symptoms should be what you make your decision on. If you lack motivation, are tired, depressed, etc(typical low T symptoms, google them) then you can have a convo with your doc/endo about what your options are.

It is fairly easy to modestly raise test naturally though. When I was 24 I got my blood work done and my test was at 400ng/dl with free T at 9. Lack of knowledge prompted me to get on TRT for a few months and felt like a god. Was amazing. Jumped off after about 6 months due to treatment opening the door for oldman Norwood and got scared of the reaper coming so early as well as not feeling quite right in some regards(later found out it was due to AI crashing my E2. AI is poison imo). Successfully did a restart with a HCG and Clomid and got my bloods back to the baseline of 400. Changed up my diet, put more emphasis on sleep and recovery and got my numbers up to 587ng/dl(dont remember free T). Chilled for a year like that and then got back on TRT fairly recently due to other low T symptoms. I believe its more important to treat symptoms as opposed to numbers when it comes to this. Personally, I would rather deal with this than hop on an SSRI or other pharmaceuticals to deal with typical low T symptoms.
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