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Why do tradies on this forum brag about being uneducated? (very srs)
10-01-2020, 10:41 PM
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#151
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
An MBA is a specialized degree. The specialization is business.This thread has become about you because you're wrong. Everyone else here has jobs, and seeing as how they do it everyday, they know what they're talking about. You on the other hand are just giving opinions based on something you read.
You seem to think that an MBA is a specialized degree, when it's the most generalized graduate degree one can get. This is how we know you don't know anything.
Me personally, I find it really weird that you consider yourself superior to everyone else, yet have nothing to show for it. And I mean absolutely nothing, it's kind of impressive how much of a failure you are. I know losers who don't try at anything in life, and they are nowhere near the level of rock bottom you've reached. It's like you're actively trying to fail. And if in fact you are, then I guess congratulations.
You seem to think that an MBA is a specialized degree, when it's the most generalized graduate degree one can get. This is how we know you don't know anything.
Me personally, I find it really weird that you consider yourself superior to everyone else, yet have nothing to show for it. And I mean absolutely nothing, it's kind of impressive how much of a failure you are. I know losers who don't try at anything in life, and they are nowhere near the level of rock bottom you've reached. It's like you're actively trying to fail. And if in fact you are, then I guess congratulations.
10-01-2020, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
The specialization is business.An MBA is a specialized degree. The specialization is business.
spe·cial·i·za·tion
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the process of concentrating on and becoming expert in a particular subject or skill.
a particular area which someone concentrates on or is an expert in.
A business is defined as an organization or enterprising entity engaged in commercial, industrial, or professional activities.
https://news.poetsandquants.com/blog...er-than-an-mba
https://www.businessbecause.com/news...nt-differences
https://www.topmba.com/jobs/career-t...er-your-career
https://daniels.du.edu/blog/should-i...asters-degree/
An MBA is a specialized degree like you fuking your hand is having sex.
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10-01-2020, 10:48 PM
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#153
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
It's a specialized degree. You can also further specialize. The fact that it is an advanced degree should open your eyes that it involves specialized knowledge for the field of business.The specialization is business.
spe·cial·i·za·tion
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Learn to pronounce
noun
the process of concentrating on and becoming expert in a particular subject or skill.
a particular area which someone concentrates on or is an expert in.
A business is defined as an organization or enterprising entity engaged in commercial, industrial, or professional activities.
https://news.poetsandquants.com/blog...er-than-an-mba
https://www.businessbecause.com/news...nt-differences
https://www.topmba.com/jobs/career-t...er-your-career
https://daniels.du.edu/blog/should-i...asters-degree/
An MBA is a specialized degree like you fuking your hand is having sex.
spe·cial·i·za·tion
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Learn to pronounce
noun
the process of concentrating on and becoming expert in a particular subject or skill.
a particular area which someone concentrates on or is an expert in.
A business is defined as an organization or enterprising entity engaged in commercial, industrial, or professional activities.
https://news.poetsandquants.com/blog...er-than-an-mba
https://www.businessbecause.com/news...nt-differences
https://www.topmba.com/jobs/career-t...er-your-career
https://daniels.du.edu/blog/should-i...asters-degree/
An MBA is a specialized degree like you fuking your hand is having sex.
10-01-2020, 10:49 PM
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10-01-2020, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
He would know, just look at his resume, virgin incel, lives in parents basement, no assets, manlet, balding, no education. With credentials like that it's hard to believe that he's not running Microsoft or ********.Just fuarkin LOL.
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10-01-2020, 10:57 PM
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#156
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
What is the point of this post?He would know, just look at his resume, virgin incel, lives in parents basement, no assets, manlet, balding, no education. With credentials like that it's hard to believe that he's not running Microsoft or ********.
Are you done with your low iq ad hominems and are you ready to actually make a point?
10-01-2020, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Buddy are you always an elitist faackker when it comes to math? State your credentials? Top tier university? Top 10% GPA in your major at a top 15 uni? Chill out.yes to all
you seem to think mathematics involves mindlessly "regurgitating books"
quite the opposite
you seem to think mathematics involves mindlessly "regurgitating books"
quite the opposite
10-01-2020, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You don't, but I imagine it helps a lot of people with little to no experience. Creating a Commercial Plumbing business for big Commercial projects entails much much more than a small joe smoe vape shop. Even small commerical subcontractors are doing 3 and 4 million dollar jobs. If that doesn't require a business degree I'm surprisedYou need a business degree to start your own business? Is that a legal requirement nowadays?
10-01-2020, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
This must be trollinghelps you get investors or loans andteaches you how to run a business
Fukking lmao
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10-01-2020, 11:07 PM
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#160
Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
If it's so useless, why does it exist and why does it continue to be one of the most popular majors?This must be trolling
Fukking lmao
Fukking lmao
Market economy folks...if it were truly useless, you wouldn't see so many people choosing to study it. If an MBA were useless, you wouldn't see companies actively seeking people with an MBA.
Studying business is certainly helpful for running a business. It's not necessary, but it is helpful.
10-01-2020, 11:08 PM
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Wincel certainly getting a warm welcome back to the Misc.
Through school you are told that you won't make any kind of decent living without a degree, and yet many in the trades do just fine, so it's not bragging about not being educated, it's a haha in your face to the establishment.
Through school you are told that you won't make any kind of decent living without a degree, and yet many in the trades do just fine, so it's not bragging about not being educated, it's a haha in your face to the establishment.
10-01-2020, 11:13 PM
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#162
Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Look buddy. Here's how it is going to be. I don't like you. You don't like me. You're not going to get me to stop posting by attempting to badger me into submission. We're done.I say we call him guyvercel from now on.
If you continue to make meaningless and insulting posts void of any real substance, I will not waste any effort on you anymore. I won't stop posting. I just won't bother with you.
That goes for danny and godfrd too. Unless you have something meaningful to contribute, I don't see why I need to continue engaging with you. You won't stop me from engaging with others though. I want to make that clear to you.
If you actually have a thoughtful point to make, I'm happy to hear it.
10-01-2020, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It definitely can help depending on the school you choose. Let's not pretend a top tier business school won't help. It may give you the upper hand over those who start their business from just reading.Are you ready to answer the question?
And do you actually think a piece of paper helps with that?
And do you actually think a piece of paper helps with that?
Not all degrees are a piece of paper. Many can get your foot in the door in different fields. Yes a Construction Management degree will greatly help in getting out of the trades which is why I had tradesmen in my classes
10-01-2020, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You're useless, yet you exist.If it's so useless, why does it existand why does it continue to be one of the most popular majors?
Market economy folks...if it were truly useless, you wouldn't see so many people choosing to study it. If an MBA were useless, you wouldn't see companies actively seeking people with an MBA.
Studying business is certainly helpful for running a business. It's not necessary, but it is helpful.
Market economy folks...if it were truly useless, you wouldn't see so many people choosing to study it. If an MBA were useless, you wouldn't see companies actively seeking people with an MBA.
Studying business is certainly helpful for running a business. It's not necessary, but it is helpful.
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10-01-2020, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Explain to me how these programs continue to attract students in a market economy. Explain to me why a fortune 500 company would put any value on having an MBA. The company wants to make as much money as possible by hiring the best people it can for management roles. What you're arguing really makes no sense when you really look at it.You're useless, yet you exist.
Your counterexample fails since you've gone beyond the domain of discussion. I am not a certification program in a market economy. Nice try with overloaded definition, but that's not an argument. Try again.
10-01-2020, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
if tradies went on strike...Somebody has to build the high tech air conditioned buildings STEMcels reside in. Would you rather work in a crack den? Would you rather work in a cave?
Trades are hard working. They aren't obtaining massive debt from liberal colleges and expecting the gubmint to pay it off
I'm willing to bet, you STEMcels pay way more taxes towards broke college students than trades.
Trades are hard working. They aren't obtaining massive debt from liberal colleges and expecting the gubmint to pay it off
I'm willing to bet, you STEMcels pay way more taxes towards broke college students than trades.
...STEMcels would open up the border to Mexicans and Indians. all would quickly go back to normal.
if STEMcels went on strike...
civilized society would fall as buildings collapse for "no reason", a functioning computer with internet access becomes the most precious commodity and vaccines kill millions because they're contaminated with piss and ibuprofen.
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10-01-2020, 11:51 PM
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10-02-2020, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
A BA and an MBA are used as arbitrary qualifiers when a company is looking for employees to hire. If there are too many candidates, let's throw out the resumes without an MBA. You wouldn't know this, but that's how companies work in the real world. I am part of the team that interviews and decided who is getting hired, so I know these things.Explain to me how these programs continue to attract students in a market economy. Explain to me why a fortune 500 company would put any value on having an MBA. The company wants to make as much money as possible by hiring the best people it can for management roles. What you're arguing really makes no sense when you really look at it.
Your counterexample fails since you've gone beyond the domain of discussion. I am not a certification program in a market economy. Nice try with overloaded definition, but that's not an argument. Try again.
Your counterexample fails since you've gone beyond the domain of discussion. I am not a certification program in a market economy. Nice try with overloaded definition, but that's not an argument. Try again.
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10-02-2020, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
It's obviously not an arbitrary qualifier. It's a specific qualifier that helps you find better candidates. It clearly has value.A BA and an MBA are used as arbitrary qualifiers when a company is looking for employees to hire. If there are too many candidates, let's throw out the resumes without an MBA. You wouldn't know this, but that's how companies work in the real world. I am part of the team that interviews and decided who is getting hired, so I know these things.
10-02-2020, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Not even close. Much lessWhat does the average journeyman carpenter, electrician, plumber make?
$70k?
$70k?
10-02-2020, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Where I work the guy who makes the least money has two master's degrees. The guy who makes the most didn't go to college at all.It's obviously not an arbitrary qualifier. It's a specific qualifier that helps you find better candidates. It clearly has value.
One more time, you have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop giving your uneducated opinion. Listen to what people who actually know about this are telling you.
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10-02-2020, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
The claim was that it serves as a useful qualifier for hiring. If it didn't, companies wouldn't care. They don't hire you based on shoe size because it's irrelevant. They do care if you have an MBA because it is relevant.Where I work the guy who makes the least money has two master's degrees. The guy who makes the most didn't go to college at all.
One more time, you have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop giving your uneducated opinion. Listen to what people who actually know about this are telling you.
One more time, you have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop giving your uneducated opinion. Listen to what people who actually know about this are telling you.
Now you're talking about wealth/personal income and certifications. That has nothing to do with what I said. I was arguing about the usefulness of an MBA. You seem to think an MBA is not useful. I am still waiting for an explanation for why companies would use it as a discriminating criterion then.
10-02-2020, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
For the same reason that most jobs want a bachelors degree. Too many people apply, and it's easy to cut all those who don't have a bachelors degree. Of course 4 years of experience trumps a degree every time. If you had gone to college, you'd know that they don't actually teach you anything relevant to a job.The claim was that it serves as a useful qualifier for hiring. If it didn't, companies wouldn't care. They don't hire you based on shoe size because it's irrelevant. They do care if you have an MBA because it is relevant.
Now you're talking about wealth/personal income and certifications. That has nothing to do with what I said. I was arguing about the usefulness of an MBA. You seem to think an MBA is not useful. I am still waiting for an explanation for why companies would use it as a discriminating criterion then.
Now you're talking about wealth/personal income and certifications. That has nothing to do with what I said. I was arguing about the usefulness of an MBA. You seem to think an MBA is not useful. I am still waiting for an explanation for why companies would use it as a discriminating criterion then.
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10-02-2020, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
If most jobs want it and view it as valuable, then it is clearly economically valuable.For the same reason that most jobs want a bachelors degree. Too many people apply, and it's easy to cut all those who don't have a bachelors degree. Of course 4 years of experience trumps a degree every time. If you had gone to college, you'd know that they don't actually teach you anything relevant to a job.
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Originally Posted By dasnotit⏩
Funny how people only consider education a degree from an over priced institution.A lot of tradies will say something along the lines of they make X amount of money without needing an education.
They will rant about college being useless or a waste of money.
Sure, some of the trades pay well relative to other job prospects that require no higher education, but the stats don't lie.
A person with a 4 year degree will average $1 Million more income in their life than a person without a college degree. Take away useless liberal majors and that number is likely closer to 2 Million. In addition educated people are more likely to have better financial habits, thus retaining and growing their net worth more than tradies/uneducated people.
School isn't for some people, if you can make an honest living without getting an education more power to you. However, bragging about making $X without an education is akin to bragging about selling yourself short.
They will rant about college being useless or a waste of money.
Sure, some of the trades pay well relative to other job prospects that require no higher education, but the stats don't lie.
A person with a 4 year degree will average $1 Million more income in their life than a person without a college degree. Take away useless liberal majors and that number is likely closer to 2 Million. In addition educated people are more likely to have better financial habits, thus retaining and growing their net worth more than tradies/uneducated people.
School isn't for some people, if you can make an honest living without getting an education more power to you. However, bragging about making $X without an education is akin to bragging about selling yourself short.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
ethered. scathing af/10It's sad that there isn't one thing that you could possibly brag about. You don't have money, or a prestigious job, you didn't go to a good school, you don't have a girlfriend, you aren't in good shape, you're not a good troll, you're not independent, you're not funny, or interesting despite your various mental health issues. I gotta hand it to you, most people in your position would have killed themselves long ago, but we all know you wouldn't even do that correctly.
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lol @ having an education in 2020 and beyond
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
100% this tho. it's basically the whole meaning of having a career, you work at job using a specific skill set and advance in said skill set gradually to keep advancing in that field for better compensation/benefits till you retire. i don't know why we're debating this even.Are either of you going to give arguments for why I am wrong?
Are you saying our economy rewards generalization over specialization?
We clearly live in the most specialized economy in human history. It's amazing that you dispute this.
Are you saying our economy rewards generalization over specialization?
We clearly live in the most specialized economy in human history. It's amazing that you dispute this.
10-02-2020, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted By notoriousthug⏩
they are debating it because they can't stand that I am back100% this tho. it's basically the whole meaning of having a career, you work at job using a specific skill set and advance in said skill set gradually to keep advancing in that field for better compensation/benefits till you retire. i don't know why we're debating this even.
they hate me so much they will try to dispute obvious points just to e-fight me
I have that much control over their emotions
10-02-2020, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
No one hates you. Most of us just think you're a dumb ass. Then there's the fact that despite having absolutely no experience in any field, you want to give an opinion, and will just keep repeating the same thing. You're doing the same thing Christians do when discussing the bible.they are debating it because they can't stand that I am back
they hate me so much they will try to dispute obvious points just to e-fight me
I have that much control over their emotions
they hate me so much they will try to dispute obvious points just to e-fight me
I have that much control over their emotions
Originally Posted By notoriousthug⏩
Being a carpenter is something specialized, being an HR manager is not, most white collar jobs are not specialized. In white collar jobs fitting in socially is more important than what you know.100% this tho. it's basically the whole meaning of having a career, you work at job using a specific skill set and advance in said skill set gradually to keep advancing in that field for better compensation/benefits till you retire. i don't know why we're debating this even.
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