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Originally Posted By i3oosted⏩
Proof that dingers are the dumbest. No other minority race needs help but them. Lol just lol at calling this racial diversity instead of dinger diversity.
^^ Proof that racism is OK in the R/P, again.


I know a few in the legal profession but I'm extrapolating from my own homeland here: High scores on bar exam make a barrier to all but the most privileged (not necessarily the most intelligent). Bar exams are what, offered twice a year, no? And there's literal months between taking your bar exam and finding the result.

That's a third of the year you need to support yourself without even being able to practice law. Even worse if you fail, which isn't uncommon. This makes passing the bar daunting AF unless you're living at home, or have the support of a headhunting firm etc.

And isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to practising law? Like having to take a test for being a plumber but you get trick questions on electrical wiring, guitar tuning etc.


So the issue is more class disparity than about race, but American history has unfortunately made class and race commensurate so bar exams did become kind of racist exams. So by having the bar exam favour the upper class you have an inherent means of preserving what's typically been a white profession.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
^^ Proof that racism is OK in the R/P, again.


I know a few in the legal profession but I'm extrapolating from my own homeland here: High scores on bar exam make a barrier to all but the most privileged (not necessarily the most intelligent). Bar exams are what, offered twice a year, no? And there's literal months between taking your bar exam and finding the result.

That's a third of the year you need to support yourself without even being able to practice law. Even worse if you fail, which isn't uncommon. This makes passing the bar daunting AF unless you're living at home, or have the support of a headhunting firm etc.

And isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to practising law? Like having to take a test for being a plumber but you get trick questions on electrical wiring, guitar tuning etc.


So the issue is more class disparity than about race, but American history has unfortunately made class and race commensurate so bar exams did become kind of racist exams. So by having the bar exam favour the upper class you have an inherent means of preserving what's typically been a white profession.
Bodhy explaining why lowering the standards is a good thing......
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Bodhy explaining why lowering the standards is a good thing......
We need diversity in Civil Engineering!

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
^^ Proof that racism is OK in the R/P, again.


I know a few in the legal profession but I'm extrapolating from my own homeland here: High scores on bar exam make a barrier to all but the most privileged (not necessarily the most intelligent). Bar exams are what, offered twice a year, no? And there's literal months between taking your bar exam and finding the result.

That's a third of the year you need to support yourself without even being able to practice law. Even worse if you fail, which isn't uncommon. This makes passing the bar daunting AF unless you're living at home, or have the support of a headhunting firm etc.

And isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to practising law? Like having to take a test for being a plumber but you get trick questions on electrical wiring, guitar tuning etc.


So the issue is more class disparity than about race, but American history has unfortunately made class and race commensurate so bar exams did become kind of racist exams. So by having the bar exam favour the upper class you have an inherent means of preserving what's typically been a white profession.
So black people can't pass the test. All you had to say bro.. black people can't pass the test. No need for the 4-5 paragraphs of pseudo-psychobabble.

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
So black people can't pass the test. All you had to say bro.. black people can't pass the test. No need for the 4-5 paragraphs of pseudo-psychobabble.

I see black lawyers all the time at court. How did they pass according to Bodhy?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Calls out racism, argues against racism, then makes a racist statement right at the end.

Just LOL @ pseudointellectuals srs.
How in the literal chit did I make a "racist statement"? Which of my words are racist?
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I see black lawyers all the time at court. How did they pass according to Bodhy?
Black lawyers, black judges, black doctors, black businessmen, etc..

I seem to recall a world-renowned BRAIN SURGEON who was black too... Yet libs detested him for some odd reason. It's almost like he didn't need them making excuses, or trying to help him or something. Weird.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Black lawyers, black judges, black doctors, black businessmen, etc..

I seem to recall a world-renowned BRAIN SURGEON who was black too... Yet libs detested him for some odd reason. It's almost like he didn't need them making excuses, or trying to help him or something. Weird.
Imagine finding out your surgeon is only a surgeon because they lowered the standards......
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Medical schools and residency programs are starting to do the same thing. Expect medical deaths to increase over the next generation, then watch these new attorneys who don't know the law trying to defend patients against these medical deaths. In both cases, the consumer will lose. Capitalism is about protecting the consumer, and allowing the markets to dictate themselves. This is the definition of backwardness, which leads to very bad outcomes

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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Imagine finding out your surgeon is only a surgeon because they lowered the standards......
I don't think you understood what I said at all. This isn't so much an issue of an intelligence barrier to the profession as it is a classist barrier to entering the profession. This is a means of removing a barrier that only the privileged can surmount.
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I don't think you understood what I said at all. This isn't so much an issue of an intelligence barrier to the profession as it is a classist barrier to entering the profession. This is a means of removing a barrier that only the privileged can surmount.
Give me a break, you support mediocrity. Lowering the standards is becoming the norm for numerous professions, and you're trying to make it sound like it's a good thing......
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I don't think you understood what I said at all. This isn't so much an issue of an intelligence barrier to the profession as it is a classist barrier to entering the profession. This is a means of removing a barrier that only the privileged can surmount.
And he doubles down! LMFAO!!!
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
So black people can't pass the test. All you had to say bro.. black people can't pass the test. No need for the 4-5 paragraphs of pseudo-psychobabble.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And he doubles down! LMFAO!!!
I'm sure if Bodhy was in a jam, he wouldn't mind if his lawyer was only a lawyer because of reduced standards.......
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Give me a break, you support mediocrity. Lowering the standards is becoming the norm for numerous professions, and you're trying to make it sound like it's a good thing......
And you're still not getting what I'm claiming. This isn't so much an issue of intelligence barriers but privilege barriers. You make the profession highly skewed to the privileged through how the bar exams work with their twice a year sittings. You're more so disadvantaging those who couldn't support themselves in the period from sitting the bar to getting their results and being able to practice law.

And if I've got this right, isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to the day to day practice of actually being a practicising lawyer? So if that is correct, we're not worrying about this producing actual bad lawyers.


And I wouldn't lower the standards for how things work in my country, because bar exams are actually only undertaken by those seeking to become barristers, not solicitors (defence attorneys and attorneys, respectively). Also a unique aspect of my alma mater was that when you did your law degree the actual practicising certificate is part of the degree so there's no wait between law school and actually becoming a lawyer. You are ready to go after you get your exam results from last semester law school. So there's much less of a privilege issue there.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
This sums it up perfectly
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
And you're still not getting what I'm claiming. This isn't so much an issue of intelligence barriers but privilege barriers. You make the profession highly skewed to the privileged through how the bar exams work with their twice a year sittings. You're more so disadvantaging those who couldn't support themselves in the period from sitting the bar to getting their results and being able to practice law.

And if I've got this right, isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to the day to day practice of actually being a practicising lawyer? So if that is correct, we're not worrying about this producing actual bad lawyers.


And I wouldn't lower the standards for how things work in my country, because bar exams are actually only undertaken by those seeking to become barristers, not solicitors (defence attorneys and attorneys, respectively). Also a unique aspect of my alma mater was that when you did your law degree the actual practicising certificate is part of the degree so there's no wait between law school and actually becoming a lawyer. You are ready to go after you get your exam results from last semester law school. So there's much less of a privilege issue there.
How can they not support themselves studying for the bar exam???
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
And you're still not getting what I'm claiming. This isn't so much an issue of intelligence barriers but privilege barriers. You make the profession highly skewed to the privileged through how the bar exams work with their twice a year sittings. You're more so disadvantaging those who couldn't support themselves in the period from sitting the bar to getting their results and being able to practice law.

And if I've got this right, isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to the day to day practice of actually being a practicising lawyer? So if that is correct, we're not worrying about this producing actual bad lawyers.


And I wouldn't lower the standards for how things work in my country, because bar exams are actually only undertaken by those seeking to become barristers, not solicitors (defence attorneys and attorneys, respectively). Also a unique aspect of my alma mater was that when you did your law degree the actual practicising certificate is part of the degree so there's no wait between law school and actually becoming a lawyer. You are ready to go after you get your exam results from last semester law school. So there's much less of a privilege issue there.
-and its passing score will be lowered from 145 to 143
-The number of essays on the exam will be decreased from eight to four, and the number of essay topics will be reduced from 14 to 10.


Seems like an intelligence barrier to me
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
And you're still not getting what I'm claiming. This isn't so much an issue of intelligence barriers but privilege barriers. You make the profession highly skewed to the privileged through how the bar exams work with their twice a year sittings. You're more so disadvantaging those who couldn't support themselves in the period from sitting the bar to getting their results and being able to practice law.

And if I've got this right, isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to the day to day practice of actually being a practicising lawyer? So if that is correct, we're not worrying about this producing actual bad lawyers.
I'm dying over here!!!! LMFAO!!!!

No dude, you don't have that right at all. The bar exam is not only "relevant" to practicing law, its a fuking requirement lol.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
And you're still not getting what I'm claiming. This isn't so much an issue of intelligence barriers but privilege barriers. You make the profession highly skewed to the privileged through how the bar exams work with their twice a year sittings. You're more so disadvantaging those who couldn't support themselves in the period from sitting the bar to getting their results and being able to practice law.

And if I've got this right, isn't the bar exam not all that relevant to the day to day practice of actually being a practicising lawyer? So if that is correct, we're not worrying about this producing actual bad lawyers.


And I wouldn't lower the standards for how things work in my country, because bar exams are actually only undertaken by those seeking to become barristers, not solicitors (defence attorneys and attorneys, respectively). Also a unique aspect of my alma mater was that when you did your law degree the actual practicising certificate is part of the degree so there's no wait between law school and actually becoming a lawyer. You are ready to go after you get your exam results from last semester law school. So there's much less of a privilege issue there.
was it a priviledge or intelligence barrier that kept you out of a top ranked school?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
was it a priviledge or intelligence barrier that kept you out of a top ranked school?
Homeboy said heNETS $75k per yeargrading papers part time, so I dunno... sounds pretty privileged to me lol.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Homeboy said heNETS $75k per yeargrading papers part time, so I dunno... sounds pretty privileged to me lol.
was this added to his official list of lies?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
was this added to his official list of lies?
Lol absolutely.
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Nuclear facepalm at you guys and your utter stupidity.


What I said was that I have a PhD stipend, which already pays almost 30k straight up and tax free. I supplement that with extra casual academic work which includes not only grading papers, but marking, lecture assistance, tutorials etc.

This all up, adds up to what someone on a 75k per year salary would earnaftertax. Which is like 52k NET.


Thought you had a gotcha, turns out you can't fcking read and just made chit up.

P.S Now my transcript is demonstrably paid for and coming, I think the list of lies you speak of is literally down to 1.
Back off, Warchild.

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52k kangaroo dollars is worth what...5 USD?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Nuclear facepalm at you guys and your utter stupidity.


What I said was that I have a PhD stipend, which already pays almost 30k straight up and tax free. I supplement that with extra casual academic work which includes not only grading papers, but marking, lecture assistance, tutorials etc.

This all up, adds up to what someone on a 75k per year salary would earnaftertax. Which is like 52k NET.


Thought you had a gotcha, turns out you can't fcking read and just made chit up.

P.S Now my transcript is demonstrably paid for and coming, I think the list of lies you speak of is literally down to 1.
So was it intelligence or priviledge that kept you from a top tier program?
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
52k kangaroo dollars is worth what...5 USD?
Funnily enough, something like that. The AUD is performing pretty badly ATM. I was talking to a travel agent about a trip to LA or NY and as it stands the cost would be utter anal-rape with the exchange rates.

My income is fairly modest but it's actually pretty damn fcking good for being a student. Also, earning 52k a year NET is not something someone would lie or fraud over, because it's not really impressive and certainly not by misc standards.

Someone really needs to learn to read.
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Nuclear facepalm at you guys and your utter stupidity.


What I said was that I have a PhD stipend, which already pays almost 30k straight up and tax free. I supplement that with extra casual academic work which includes not only grading papers, but marking, lecture assistance, tutorials etc.

This all up, adds up to what someone on a 75k per year salary would earnaftertax. Which is like 52k NET..
...
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Two disingenuous offences here:

1. Firstly, I never said I earned 75k from marking papers. I said I do casual academic work to supplement my PhD stipend, which alone pays 28.5k a year without tax. In addition to marking, there's tutorials, lecturing etc.All up, it adds up to around a 75k a year salary after tax..
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I have a stipend plus side work which my supervisor offered me withmarking, tutorials, helping with his lectures etc.Nets about 75K a year equivalent to an after-tax salary. And I don't even work full time. I've been doing this for a few years and it's a great way to make money without the grind.

I make more than lousy go nowhere beat cops, too.
It doesn't matter anyway because you play with and eat shiit.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
the cost would be utter anal-rape with the exchange rates.
aren't you into that?
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y'all might want to read this for clarification, just sayin.....

http://www.nationalreview.com/news/d...ial-diversity/
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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Originally Posted By uncle
y'all might want to read this for clarification, just sayin.....

http://www.nationalreview.com/news/d...ial-diversity/
I tell you Benny, nothing - and I mean nothing says progress like lowering standards to accommodate minorities.

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