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Thread: Should parents have to provide receipts for how child support is spent?

post 1598201521 02-21-2020, 08:22 AM
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Absolutely they should provide receipts.......but that’s common sense so it’ll never be a requirement
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this would fix what exactly? Baby mama buys groceries for her bff, bff pays baby mama in cash for groceries, baby mama buys LV bag with cash.

It would simply be a defeatable loophole.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
LOL I spend twice as much on food weekly. Raising a child is Fukken expensive
And this right here ladies and gentlemen, is why child support doesn't work with the current system. Because the father has to fund the mother's terrible spending habits.

I cant believe she has just come out with this statement.

She spends £150 a week on food for a child; absolutely ridiculous.

To put this into perspective, as a grown man weighing 90kg lean, training for my last fight, I was eating 5000 kcals a day. I ate all clean, whole foods which are generally more expensive than the average diet (steak etc) . My food bill was £40 a week.

Then she complains that child support isnt enough to raise her child, cus she can't buy gucci shoes for them. Moron.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Why would she pay me? I can't take care of them as well as she can. I travel for work sometimes gone for a month at a time.

Even if she paid me it would be hard for the three of us( now two of us to live and they would have gone to a much worse school.

When you get divorced you aren't supposed to want your children's lifestyles to go backwards just because you want your ex punished.


I think most of you are warped. You want your kids moving into a dump of an apartment after all they've known their whole life is a decent house in a decent neighborhood?
A lot of the laws behind child support are misunderstood. They have the childs best interests in mind. For split custody, they want the child to have a similar lifestyle betweens moms house and dads house. This allows both parents to have equal footing, ie one cant be the favourite parent because they get the new bike/vacations etc.

Its actually kind of an important decision in your life, who you decide to have children with.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
you dont understand equity.

He was freed from the mortgage but you are getting free money from him every month to put towards the mortgage. He maybe be off the mortgage and the house was determined yours in the divorce but he is still paying towards the equity. You will look it over since its an obvious benefit to yourself. He is paying into equity for the house while you get that equity.

This is solely supposed to be to the benefit to the child.
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Originally Posted By Godlyglutes⏩
And this right here ladies and gentlemen, is why child support doesn't work with the current system. Because the father has to fund the mother's terrible spending habits.

I cant believe she has just come out with this statement.

She spends £150 a week on food for a child; absolutely ridiculous.

To put this into perspective, as a grown man weighing 90kg lean, training for my last fight, I was eating 5000 kcals a day. I ate all clean, whole foods which are generally more expensive than the average diet (steak etc) . My food bill was £40 a week.

Then she complains that child support isnt enough to raise her child, cus she can't buy gucci shoes for them. Moron.
I have a hard time believing you only spent 60 us a week on food.

You have no idea what kids cost.
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post 1598203631 02-21-2020, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Because they are still my children dumbass. I still have responsibility to care for them.

What is wrong with you people?


I have zero problem with the concept of child support.

Where I wish Snails and folks like her would focus is child support enforcement reform. I think there is too little leeway on each side of the enforcement issue.
You have no issues because your ex earns more than you and you are pretty sure she's not spending your child support for her own needs.
Your case is not the norm brah. You got lucky.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias⏩
Child support shouldn't exist.

If you want money to support your broke ass kids you shouldn't fuk around with somebody who is going to dip on you. Do a better job choosing a mate instead of expecting society to cover your poor decisions by enforcing financial care.

Child support encourages divorce, whores, and bad womaning
what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I have a hard time believing you only spent 60 us a week on food.

You have no idea what kids cost.
Maybe if you tried lifting and dieting then you'd know how much clean food actually costs.

I know it doesn't cost 3x my food bill to feed a child.

Typical whiteknight with dwindling low test, instead of looking at the figures she's just provided (£150 a week to feed a child) your argument is completely illogical based on emotion. Ever wonder your ex was the breadwinner, she's got the balls.
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Originally Posted By jinda628⏩
You have no issues because your ex earns more than you and you are pretty sure she's not spending your child support for her own needs.
Your case is not the norm brah. You got lucky.
I have no issues with it because children need a decent place to live. Need clothes, heat food,transportation, activities and hobbies,tutors,water, internet, phones, computers. Child support doesn't come close to paying for all that.
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Originally Posted By Godlyglutes⏩
Maybe if you tried lifting and dieting then you'd know how much clean food actually costs.

I know it doesn't cost 3x my food bill to feed a child.

Typical whiteknight with dwindling low test, instead of looking at the figures she's just provided (£150 a week to feed a child) your argument is completely illogical based on emotion. Ever wonder your ex was the breadwinner, she's got the balls.
Dude chicken is 2 bux a pound. Steak is 6 to 10 bux a pound at the cheapest.

My son is bigger than you and my 15yo isn't too far behind.

You're an out of touch azzhole. Don't even talk to me about training. I've done more real training than you'll ever imagine.

What are you one of those amateur MMA pussies?
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post 1598204681 02-21-2020, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I have no issues with it because children need a decent place to live. Need clothes, heat food,transportation, activities and hobbies,tutors,water, internet, phones, computers. Child support doesn't come close to paying for all that.
Do you never see your kids or something?

Do you not have a house they come to stay at which you pay for. Do you not provide water, heat, internet, laptops when they come over every week?

Does your ex contribute towards it, no.

You are a 50 year old man whos ex earns more than you. She's the breadwinner, you just contribute. So no wonder your illogical view is skewed.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Dude chicken is 2 bux a pound. Steak is 6 to 10 bux a pound at the cheapest.

My son is bigger than you and my 15yo isn't too far behind.

You're an out of touch azzhole. Don't even talk to me about training. I've done more real training than you'll ever imagine.

What are you one of those amateur MMA pussies?
This is the U.K, a chicken breast costs £1.

Apparently your 15 year old son is bigger than 90kg lean and you've trained so much yet you look like utter ****.

Go back to taking selfies in your car, low test beta. Never heard such ****e
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Originally Posted By Godlyglutes⏩
Do you never see your kids or something?

Do you not have a house they come to stay at which you pay for. Do you not provide water, heat, internet, laptops when they come over every week?

Does your ex contribute towards it, no.

You are a 50 year old man whos ex earns more than you. She's the breadwinner, you just contribute. So no wonder your illogical view is skewed.
My ex is a doctor. She would earn more than most here.

I travel for work. So I can be gone up to a month at a time. But yes I think most of you are clueless as to what it costs and I don't think 25 to 30 percent of your income to go towards child support is exorbitant.


For the vast majority of men we are talking 400 to 1000 a month in child support.

That's not back breaking for 98% percent of men.
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post 1598206171 02-21-2020, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Godlyglutes⏩
This is the U.K, a chicken breast costs £1.

Apparently your 15 year old son is bigger than 90kg lean ���������������� � and you've trained so much yet you look like utter ****.

Go back to taking selfies in your car, low test beta. Never heard such ****e
No my 18yo is 6'2 225 and lifts and my 15yo is 5'10 165 and lifts.

Plus they play football and not homosexual soccer.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I have no issues with it because children need adecent place to live. Need clothes, heat food,transportation, activities and hobbies,tutors,water, internet, phones, computers. Child support doesn't come close to paying for all that.
Exactly. The point of the discussion is making sure your ex spends everything you pay for child support for your child and not for her own.
Thats why this doesnt apply to you. This applies to those who pays for it and see their ex spending it on shoes, clothes, gym, cosmetics etc. Will you be happy if his happens to you?

And child support is supposed to be a shared responsibility. Its not supposed to 100% finance everything. The sharing depends on the agreed custody.

I paid for support for my 2 elder kids. They are now 23 and 20 and they have a good mom who took care of them too. But this is about those women who prioritizes themselves over their kids.
I hate it because I can see my sister doing it. I feel bad for my ex-brother-in-law.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
my 15yo is 5'10 165 and lifts.

Plus they play football and not homosexual soccer.
Lol, just shows you've never lifted seriously.

I'm a good 35 lbs heavier whilst being 10% bf. That's a fkin massive difference in size.

This is supposed to be a bodybuilding forum, and we've got old men with car selfies of their face, telling us their 15 year old football playing bloatlord son's are huge.

Ever wonder this forum has died. Full of *******s.
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Originally Posted By jinda628⏩
Exactly. The point of the discussion is making sure your ex spends everything you pay for child support for your child and not for her own.
Thats why this doesnt apply to you. This applies to those who pays for it and see their ex spending it on shoes, clothes, gym, cosmetics etc. Will you be happy if his happens to you?

And child support is supposed to be a shared responsibility. Its not supposed to 100% finance everything. The sharing depends on the agreed custody.

I paid for support for my 2 elder kids. They are now 23 and 20 and they have a good mom who took care of them too. But this is about those women who prioritizes themselves over their kids.
I hate it because I can see my sister doing it. I feel bad for my ex-brother-in-law.
Does your niece/ nephew not have a place to live and the other things I listed?

As long as the child is taken care of is she not allowed to have anything?
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Originally Posted By Godlyglutes⏩
Lol, just shows you've never lifted seriously.

I'm a good 35 lbs heavier whilst being 10% bf. That's a fkin massive difference in size.

This is supposed to be a bodybuilding forum, and we've got old men with car selfies of their face, telling us their 15 year old football playing bloatlord son's are huge.

Ever wonder this forum has died. Full of *******s.
You phucking pussy I played D1 football. Had more lean mass and strength and athleticism than your 180lb twink ass.

Don't ever dream about comparing yourself to me you phucking pikey!!!
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
You phucking pussy I played D1 football. Had more lean mass and strength and athleticism than your 180lb twink ass.

Don't ever dream about comparing yourself to me you phucking pikey!!!
Strong maths, 165+35=? I'm 200lbs , lean, you raging *******.

12,000 posts on bodybuilding forum, doesn't even look like you lift. Pathetic.
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Originally Posted By Godlyglutes⏩
Strong maths, 165+35=? I'm 200lbs , lean, you raging *******.

12,000 posts on bodybuilding forum, doesn't even look like you lift. Pathetic.
Hey phuck face you said 90kg btw measuring in kilos is for pussies too. 90 kg isn't big.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Does your niece/ nephew not have a place to live and the other things I listed?
As long as the child is taken care of is she not allowed to have anything?
My nephew is being taken care of by my mother while she goes out every night and by the time she's home, my nephew is already in bed.
She has a decent work, but she splurge on things that her income cannot support. So where does it come from? Child support?

Well there's more people in worse situation that this and I really think its not a bad thing to have that process. If a guy can be penalized for not paying child support, then the girl should at least spend them all for the child.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
In theory - yes. In practice - hellllll no.

This would cost millions upon millions to attempt (key word) to enforce and would make family court even more of a clusterfukk. Can you imagine chasing all these dumb slunt single moms around for receipts? Good luck with that.
Can only imagine that this is why such a system doesn't exist already: the amount of administration required would be insane. It would be on par with tax auditing in terms of complexity but would eat up revenue instead of generating it

But it's definitely a constant battle for the people I know who are paying child support and non-stop critiquing the apparent purchases made by and lifestyles of the other half
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
My ex is a doctor. She would earn more than most here.

I travel for work. So I can be gone up to a month at a time. But yes I think most of you are clueless as to what it costs and I don't think 25 to 30 percent of your income to go towards child support is exorbitant.


For the vast majority of men we are talking 400 to 1000 a month in child support.

That's not back breaking for 98% percent of men.
The only time i think that's unreasonable is if you have 50/50 and she makes more than you.
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Originally Posted By redliner9⏩
The only time i think that's unreasonable is if you have 50/50 and she makes more than you.
I believe in NC if it's truly 50/50 then there won't be much if any child support paid.
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When a marriage ends any children should be killed unless they are 18 years old. This solves child support and lowers divorce rates simultaneously as there will no longer be children to support and any couples thinking about divorce will have to really consider if they want to murder their children to go through with it. Morbid, but effective.
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead⏩
When a marriage ends any children should be killed unless they are 18 years old. This solves child support and lowers divorce rates simultaneously as there will no longer be children to support and any couples thinking about divorce will have to really consider if they want to murder their children to go through with it. Morbid, but effective.
Another retard.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Hes telling you that your tax dollars are being wasted handing out expensive steaks and lobster to people unwilling to work and your retort is to call him an idiot. And its not even all your tax dollars, its your childrens future dollars being taken as wells since the current year taxes dont cover the current year expenses and the government debt piles on to be paid in the future by your children.

But sure hes an idiot if that makes you feel better.
Lol, this. I was going to reread my post to make sure my point was clear enough but you explained it perfectly, so apparently Leo is the only one that didn't get it. But I'm the idiot.
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